I'm a former Miso engineer and the founders screwed me out of 10k

Post by blantonl » Fri, May 11, 2012, 1:35 AM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #185

cletus wrote: post #130

"Name and shame" is a thorny issue. Opponents are right in the same way you shouldn't badmouth former employers in job interviewers. It's not fair but it makes you look worse. You just kind of have to suck it up and move on. When companies screw you out of money, you should name and shame them (IMHO). Trust me, over the years I've probably lost out on all told $50,000 or more that people never paid. In some cases it…

The company agreed to pay him a certain amount of money if he referred somebody who stayed for at least 6 months. He referred somebody who stayed for at least 6 months. The company thus owes him the money. His employment status with the company has nothing to do with it, unless that was stated as part of the deal up-front. I'm pretty sure this would last about five seconds in front of a judge. Produce whatever docume…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 11, 2012, 1:35 AM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #185

cletus wrote: post #130

"Name and shame" is a thorny issue. Opponents are right in the same way you shouldn't badmouth former employers in job interviewers. It's not fair but it makes you look worse. You just kind of have to suck it up and move on. When companies screw you out of money, you should name and shame them (IMHO). Trust me, over the years I've probably lost out on all told $50,000 or more that people never paid. In some cases it…

The company agreed to pay him a certain amount of money if he referred somebody who stayed for at least 6 months. He referred somebody who stayed for at least 6 months. The company thus owes him the money. His employment status with the company has nothing to do with it, unless that was stated as part of the deal up-front. I'm pretty sure this would last about five seconds in front of a judge. Produce whatever docume…

Post by ebabchick » Fri, May 11, 2012, 1:39 AM UTC

thaumaturgy wrote: post #199

MartinCron wrote: post #182

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How excited are you to give it to him? The scenario implies that the impact of the production db nuke was equal or greater than the bonus. Depending on the context, the impact could range from trivial to catastrophic. The fact that it wasn't backed up only makes it worse. Sometimes I joke that correctly working yet poorly-written code is "conceptually broken". Similarly, any important data that isn't backed up is alr…

Sure, but it doesn't take a development team two to three days to recover "conceptually lost" data (as according to the post). If you're about to touch the production database in a way that could potentially end catastrophically, and there aren't backups, you really should stop and consider the meaning of life before proceeding. Preferably, you decide that backups are the meaning of life, and even if it's an imperfec…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 11, 2012, 1:43 AM UTC

arbales wrote: post #297

fleitz wrote: post #77

Stop calling it a bonus, it isn't, it's payment for your services of recruitment. The offer came as part of a written agreement from an officer of the company in relation to the duties required by employees (adding the optional duty of recruitment) and their remuneration for performing said services (your payment for recruitment). Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Bonuses are when you receive additional pay for…

It actually /is/ a bonus – because you're already employed, and salaried, there's no obligation for your employeer to pay you more for services rendered. I'm no lawyer either, but Google seems to think "Referral Bonus" is a common thing.

Post by mikeash » Fri, May 11, 2012, 1:44 AM UTC

blantonl wrote: post #311

mikeash wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The company agreed to pay him a certain amount of money if he referred somebody who stayed for at least 6 months. He referred somebody who stayed for at least 6 months. The company thus owes him the money. His employment status with the company has nothing to do with it, unless that was stated as part of the deal up-front. I'm pretty sure this would last about five seconds in front of a judge. Produce whatever docume…

I wholehearted agree, but.. I'm pretty sure this would last about five seconds in front of a judge This whole issue would probably cost 50k just to get in front of a judge.