im beginning to see them in my neighborhood i feel unsafe around them tbh
California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF Peninsula [pdf]
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Hmm, in my (limited) experience, I've seen Waymo being within +/- $1-2 of Uber.
This is what I'm more accustomed too, in this particular instance though there was a 25 minute wait. I'm guessing the rain right now might be increasing demand for rides.
Yes, Waymo often has a much longer wait time (fewer cars).
But then the Uber drivers often cancel. So maybe it comes out in the wash.
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#353I love Waymo and use it all the time. One aspect I'd still like to see them figure out: As a bike commuter, I share the road with Waymo often. When cycling, you're always checking the eyes of other drivers to confirm if they see you. I've had a couple incidents where I was a little thrown/unnerved because I couldn't confirm if a Waymo was registering me. It ultimately behaved fine, but I had to put my guard way up be…
since I'm out walking the dog often, in the dark and in daytime: Often you can't tell if a human sees you. Even in day, they may have tinted windows, or the sun might make it impossible. At night, you definitely can't tell.
As a constant pedestrian, my main concern is people turning right at a light as I'm starting out in the crosswalk. In that case you can usually check their eyes from the side even at night. If I don't have confirmation they see me, or if they aren't obviously stopping for me, I don't go.
If it's someone at a 4-way stop, you can usually tell when they come to a stop far from back the crosswalk. Otherwise I don't walk out in front of them. I also try to be aware if I'm in their blind spot.
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#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think that Waymo cars are.
Let's say the Waymo cars are $1 million each, which is probably high, given than a fully loaded i-Pace is $80k, which still leaves $920,000 for Google/Waymo devices and software costs to get to $1 million. Given the estimate for a human life at $7.4 million[1], I think they are. [1] https://www.epa.gov/environmental-economics/mortality-risk-v...
You could pay someone California's minimum wage 24/7 for 140,000 a year.
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since I'm out walking the dog often, in the dark and in daytime: Often you can't tell if a human sees you. Even in day, they may have tinted windows, or the sun might make it impossible. At night, you definitely can't tell.
As a constant pedestrian, my main concern is people turning right at a light as I'm starting out in the crosswalk. In that case you can usually check their eyes from the side even at night. If I don't have confirmation they see me, or if they aren't obviously stopping for me, I don't go. If it's someone at a 4-way stop, you can usually tell when they come to a stop far from back the crosswalk. Otherwise I don't walk…
yes. Always cautious. And yell "Stop!!!" if in any doubt. Better to have them be pissed off than running over you.
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#356If Waymo was not too expensive and easy to get at rush hour in LA I'd certainly consider it. If I want to leave work between 5:30 and 6:30 pm, my commute can be 60 mins. At 8pm it will be 20 mins. That sucks but if I could use the 60 mins then it sucks less. On the other hand, unlike Uber/Lyft, Waymo can't scale like they do. For them, demand pricing means more drivers with their own car driving when there's lots of…
There’s probably a smart way to ride share during peak times using a service like Waymo. Could be the best of both worlds.
I could also envision a future where a car owner allows his car to be used for Waymo if he isn’t using it, and receives some compensation.
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I wonder if they're allowed at SFO?
They are not. SFO, owned by the city of SF and at the behest of city officials, have been notorious in blocking Waymo: https://missionlocal.org/2023/11/waymo-rebuffed-by-sfo-sf-gu...
Which is strange. You'd think officals would be jumping at the chance to bilk Google out of money that they can line their pockets with.
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As a biker, I feel MICH safer around self driving cars because I know they are paying attention. I don’t need to check if they see me. They do.
I'm the exact opposite. I've had a couple incidents that make me not trust them. (Weird this was down voted, just sharing personal experiences)
Because you didn't share why. Also, please don't complain about downvotes, it's in the HN guidelines.
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#359New Waymo operating area: https://twitter.com/saferroadsorg/status/1763687210447196417
This changes the calculus for Google employees to live in SF and commute to Mountain View. They already run shuttle buses but with this, they can make it easier for their employees to commute at off hours by giving them priority for rides.