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Open Collective Official Statement – OCF Dissolution

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Re: Open Collective Official Statement – OCF Dissolution

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I've wondered about this for a long time - can't a 501(c)3 non-profit hire open-source developers as employees, or easier, employ or fund them as contractors and pay them through a 1099? I'm sure that non-profits hire for-profit companies or contract out work in some way, wouldn't that model apply to supporting open source projects through a non-profit?

It might be hard to justify the need for that software -- I don't think 501(c)3 orgs can do literally anything they want and keep their 501(c)3 status. The things they fund have to go towards a specific mission, and "putting more OSS into the world" might not be a valid mission (?).

As noted elsethread, there are several 501(c)(3)s that pay for software development, either via having their employees/contractors do it (directly or indirectly), or by providing grants or one-off funding for specific kinds of work. It really depends on the organization what their policies are.

The LF has plenty of employees who help code on their various sub-foundations in one way or another. Python, NumFocus, PHP, and some others have grant programs to help pay developers to work on specific code. And Conservancy and SPI are fiscal hosts that allow their independent projects to fundraise and pay for their own work.

On the other hand, the ASF explicitly does not allow funding to pay for project development, at least not in the context of the ASF itself. The ASF does have a paid infra staff/contractors who do write code, but it's all to run infra, not for project releases.

As noted elsethread, it's all about what the charity was setup to do.

Re: Open Collective Official Statement – OCF Dissolution

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> donations from funders including Ford Foundation, Gates Foundation, You know the projects “hack club” sponsor are going to be a particular “type”, and probably very weird and wasteful.

Could you explain it, instead of making weird implications, that only some insiders will understand?

HackClub.com purports to support Highschool coding clubs and building open source learning tools - I can't claim to know how successful this goal is, but it doesn't seem untoward or overly wasteful to me!

Re: Open Collective Official Statement – OCF Dissolution

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Hi all, I'm Lauren Gardner, the Executive Director of Open Source Collective (OSC). I wanted to share my gratitude for all of the conversation and help supporting the projects in flux after the announcement that OCF is dissolving.

To clarify: only OCF is closing down. This does not impact all the FOSS and OSS projects hosted in the Open Source Collective. While OCF hosts several projects that need c3 status, the bulk of the projects are hosted on the c6 OSC and are supported and can receive contributions as usual. The maintainers of the projects employed by OSC have not been impacted.

Because OSC is a c6, projects currently hosted by OCF (a c3) can not transfer their funds to us, so I'd like to re-share a message from Pia, the co-founder and CEO of Open Collective.

--- Ask: We have built a matching tool to connect collectives in OCF to potential fiscal hosts (on AND off the open collective platform) and a CRM to track their status and support. We are asking all fiscal hosts who can take on some of these groups to reach out so we can add them to the matching tool. We are tagging collectives based on locale, mission, and size at the moment, but we can expand to language (python, javascript, etc) for example or other tags.

Please reach out to support@opencollective.com directly with resources or questions

Open Collective's statement can be found here: https://blog.opencollective.com/open-collective-official-sta...

And if you have any questions for Open Source Collective (OSC) you can reach us at hello@oscollective.org

Re: Open Collective Official Statement – OCF Dissolution

#44

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Just sent this comment to beehaw (fediverse instance). Open collective shuttering has them scrambling. Appreciate your willingness to help folks out with this!

Thanks for the headsup @BolexNOLA. Penguincoder here (of Beehaw) and we are tracking on this outreach. We definitely want to go with another well known and trustworthy fiscal host. Not sure that a Rails UX matters in this context but certainly nicer than some other banking front-ends...

Happy to help. Guess you know my HN and beehaw accounts now haha
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