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Study: 61 UK firms tried a 4-day workweek and after a year, they still love it
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Re: Study: 61 UK firms tried a 4-day workweek and after a year, they still love it
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It wasn't hard to find for you . In the market you were looking for a job, at the time you were looking for a job, given that the vast majority of people weren't working remotely before can we agree that it wasn't common nor easy to find for a vast swath of the population? You seem to conflate your experience with the general experience, that's an extremely harmful bias to have since it signals you are unable to see…
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I simply do not understand your grudge against unions.
You're absolutely free to not join one, I have no idea where you are from so can't understand the cultural aspect of your grudge. It's just really tiring to read the same non-sequitur repeated ad nauseum, yes, you do not like unions, I got that, what else do you have to say?
Unions where I live are a central and core component of the labour market, the government does not interfere in the market, all employment contracts are established by employees and employers with the support of strong unions to provide the basics: minimum wage, working hours, additional benefits not covered by law, etc. That's a free market of labour, and the right of freedom of association working as intended.
If you care to expand the discussion further than being edgy about unions we can have a meaningful chat, right now you just sound like a parrot.
Re: Study: 61 UK firms tried a 4-day workweek and after a year, they still love it
#135There's no doubt that there's a benefit to the employee, but for corporations to adopt this there has to be a measurable benefit to the company as well. I do think there is one clear benefit as measured in the article - employee retention. It's an extremely strong incentive to stay with the current company, and domain knowledge gained over decades really is a competitive advantage if your employees commonly have it.…
In the mid aughts, I worked at a company that put ROWE (results oriented work environment) into practice. This approach basically meant you could work whenever you wanted, as long as you were meeting goals and metrics. There was a list of metrics you had to meet before being eligible for it. They kept it in place for two years and nothing really changed. Devs were still meeting their metrics and the company was still…
I'm with a large organization (government, military) that also implemented a hybrid model under covid and decided to keep it going. But not a day goes by that someone doesn't scream for it to end. We have too many people "working from home" all the time and never getting done the stuff that cannot be done from home. Is the server not responding after the recent power outage? Too bad. The guy to turn it back on only comes in Monday-Tuesday. They put the real property maintenance people on a hybrid model. No joke: The plumbers and electricians still "work from home" half the week.
"Hello, this is General Smith." "Sir, ... um .. you are answering your own phone?" "Yup. My EA is working from home thursday-friday and we cannot get the secure phone to forward calls to her cellphone." "Did you talk to IT?" "It is friday. IT works remote on fridays." "How about I come to your office?" "Please do, I'm all alone here."
Re: Study: 61 UK firms tried a 4-day workweek and after a year, they still love it
#136There's no doubt that there's a benefit to the employee, but for corporations to adopt this there has to be a measurable benefit to the company as well. I do think there is one clear benefit as measured in the article - employee retention. It's an extremely strong incentive to stay with the current company, and domain knowledge gained over decades really is a competitive advantage if your employees commonly have it.…
The work week went from 6 days to 5 and economy growth didn’t stall (when people were waaay less productive) My bet is literally nothing will change if we go to 4-day work week. Can’t say about others but my productivity goes way up with an extra weekend. I am way more rested and eager to do some work in Monday.
Reducing the number of days worked per week per individual increases (relative) overhead costs, including administrative costs, benefits (most notably including healthcare), and capital costs (because everything is being used less, but still devaluing). These are all real changes with real impacts.
Also of note, the increase in these costs from going down to 4 days will be substantially larger than the prior one (due to the smaller dividend).
Re: Study: 61 UK firms tried a 4-day workweek and after a year, they still love it
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the mid aughts, I worked at a company that put ROWE (results oriented work environment) into practice. This approach basically meant you could work whenever you wanted, as long as you were meeting goals and metrics. There was a list of metrics you had to meet before being eligible for it. They kept it in place for two years and nothing really changed. Devs were still meeting their metrics and the company was still…
I'm with a large organization (government, military) that also implemented a hybrid model under covid and decided to keep it going. But not a day goes by that someone doesn't scream for it to end. We have too many people "working from home" all the time and never getting done the stuff that cannot be done from home. Is the server not responding after the recent power outage? Too bad. The guy to turn it back on only c…
My employer's IT is in a different country. I'm not sure which. If it matters, that's an organizational problem, not a WFH problem.
Re: Study: 61 UK firms tried a 4-day workweek and after a year, they still love it
#138There's no doubt that there's a benefit to the employee, but for corporations to adopt this there has to be a measurable benefit to the company as well. I do think there is one clear benefit as measured in the article - employee retention. It's an extremely strong incentive to stay with the current company, and domain knowledge gained over decades really is a competitive advantage if your employees commonly have it.…
I’d happily take a 20% pay cut for a 4 day work week, if it was offered.
It's "sort of" what I've done, only last time I changed jobs I told recruiters it'd take 20%-30% more for me to come into the office full time, and pro-rated below that.
Re: Study: 61 UK firms tried a 4-day workweek and after a year, they still love it
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
The work week went from 6 days to 5 and economy growth didn’t stall (when people were waaay less productive) My bet is literally nothing will change if we go to 4-day work week. Can’t say about others but my productivity goes way up with an extra weekend. I am way more rested and eager to do some work in Monday.
Reducing the number of days worked per week per individual increases (relative) overhead costs, including administrative costs, benefits (most notably including healthcare), and capital costs (because everything is being used less, but still devaluing). These are all real changes with real impacts. Also of note, the increase in these costs from going down to 4 days will be substantially larger than the prior one (due…
Capital costs spent do not go up. An opportunity for saving exist. One extra day means less electrical costs. Admin costs remain static. These costs do not change unless you are hiring someone for that one day.
The costs are not going up substantially or at all for most 9/5 businesses
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"Europe" is not a homogenous working mass.
The comment you’re replying to also has many characteristics of trolling. It’s ignorant of what actually happens inEU countries, as well as the motivation behind the regulations that seem to have become a between noir for a certain libertarian flavour of HN commenters.