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Re: Elon Musk sues Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and OpenAI [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also no reason to believe that incremental progress in transformer models will eventually lead to "AGI".

Yes, but I think everyone would agree that the chance isn't 0%

I don't agree, I think many people would argue the chance is 0%.

Re: Elon Musk sues Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and OpenAI [pdf]

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> Microsoft gained exclusive licensing to OpenAI's GPT-3 language model in 2020. Microsoft continues to assert rights to GPT-4, which it claims has not reached the level of AGI, which would block its licensing privileges. Not sure this is a common knowledge - MSFT licence vis-a-vis AGI.

It's described here: https://openai.com/our-structure Quote: Fifth, the board determines when we've attained AGI. Again, by AGI we mean a highly autonomous system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work. Such a system is excluded from IP licenses and other commercial terms with Microsoft, which only apply to pre-AGI technology. > "Musk claims Microsoft's hold on Altman and the OpenAI board will kee…

I'm surprised such an important legal issue here is based on the definition of "AGI", seems really hard to define (I really think the concept is flawed). Does this consider that "most economically valuable work" is physical? And more importantly, with such money on the line, no one will agree on when AGI is attained.

Re: Elon Musk sues Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and OpenAI [pdf]

#56

Allowing startups to begin as non-profits for tax benefits, only to 'flip' into profit-seeking ventures is a moral hazard, IMO. It risks damaging public trust in the non-profit sector as a whole. This lawsuit is important

once it converts into profit-seeking venture, it won't get the tax benefits one could argue that they did R&D as a non-profit and now converted to for-profit to avoid paying taxes, but until last year R&D already got tax benefits to even for-profit venture so there really is no tax-advantage of converting a non-profit to for-profit

The tax advantage still exists for the investors.

Re: Elon Musk sues Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and OpenAI [pdf]

#57
This is good news. OpenAI's recent decision to dive into the secretive military contracting world makes a mockery of all its PR about alignment and safety. Using AI to develop targeted assassination lists based on ML algorithms (as was and is being done in Gaza) is obviously 'unsafe and unethical' use of the technology:

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/perspective/20231212-un...

Re: Elon Musk sues Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and OpenAI [pdf]

#59

Allowing startups to begin as non-profits for tax benefits, only to 'flip' into profit-seeking ventures is a moral hazard, IMO. It risks damaging public trust in the non-profit sector as a whole. This lawsuit is important

if you're not profitable, there should be no tax advantage, right?

no that is not the test for nonprofit status

Re: Elon Musk sues Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and OpenAI [pdf]

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also no reason to believe that incremental progress in transformer models will eventually lead to "AGI".

Yes, but I think everyone would agree that the chance isn't 0%

Non-zero chances don't deserve the hype AGI is receiving, is the issue.

And a lot of AI experts outside of the AGI grift have stated that it's zero.

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