This is off-topic, but does anyone else think Clay Shirky looks like Tom Hanks in this video?
Love, Internet Style
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#12This is actually a really great discussion on community support for software development versus "corporate" support, using a really interesting metaphor of a japanese shrine. I enjoyed the video and am voting it up, but I think you should change the title, because I was expecting some cheesy dating video... ..I know, what does that say about me, that THINKING that, I still clicked through... Perhaps add to the end of…
It isn't really about community vs corporate support. He is making a much broader point that the internet (and other modern tech) is enabling like-minded people to work together to produce stable and effective systems purely for the love of it, on a previously unimaginable scale.
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#13Ise Shrine which Clay Shirky mentions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ise_Shrine It is rebuilt every 20 years and is on iteration 61.
See also the Ship of Theseus paradox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
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#14I find it slightly humorous that he's assuming 'edifice' and 'process' are different and yet he's working with computers. He even mentions longevity a few times.
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#15Ise Shrine which Clay Shirky mentions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ise_Shrine It is rebuilt every 20 years and is on iteration 61.
See also the Ship of Theseus paradox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
... It takes a philosopher to create paradoxes out of well understood physical processes.
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#16These types of post are the reason I spend hours on HN. It is variable reinforcement really- the really great posts come at pseudo random intervals (make n a random number and assume you hit a great post after n clicks, then reset n). And then you become addicted. I just hit n. I can finally go to sleep.
Glad I could help.
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#17This is actually a really great discussion on community support for software development versus "corporate" support, using a really interesting metaphor of a japanese shrine. I enjoyed the video and am voting it up, but I think you should change the title, because I was expecting some cheesy dating video... ..I know, what does that say about me, that THINKING that, I still clicked through... Perhaps add to the end of…
+1. By title alone I would have never cared. Only because it's here in HN did I click through to these comments and based on yours I decided to actually watch the video. It's a 9 min talk by Clay Shirky basically praising the hacker spirit.
The sense of community and collaboration has been on the ris for years now. I think it's evident in the open source spirit and the increasing usability and documentation of open source tools. The django and python Q&A communities I'm part of also have this "collaboration" tilt.
Still, when I think "hacker" I think solitary, ego-driven programmer, doing immature things to prove himself. I think of the anger and non-compromise that comes out of some of the old beards.
If "hacker" has been reappropriated that's great. I don't mean to quibble over words--regardless of what we call things, I am very optimistic by the growing team-work and social awareness of internet communities.
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#18This is actually a really great discussion on community support for software development versus "corporate" support, using a really interesting metaphor of a japanese shrine. I enjoyed the video and am voting it up, but I think you should change the title, because I was expecting some cheesy dating video... ..I know, what does that say about me, that THINKING that, I still clicked through... Perhaps add to the end of…
Perhaps add to the end of it - The Longevity of FOSS.
Good idea. Alas, it seems to be beyond the edit time limit.
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#19Don't let the crappy title fool you--this is worth watching.
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#20awesome talk. I love him.