the first dune was stylish and had its moments but overall i found it while entertaining rather dull and pretentious. it also didn't make much sense if i thought too much about. can't wait to watch part 2 but will do so with guarded expectations.
Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade
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#152I feel like I live in a different reality to the other viewers of the new Dunes
"Best Sci-Fi of the decade"??
They're both some of the dullest sci-fi movies I've ever seen, especially compared to the Lynch one.
Disgracefully I imagine that few people saw the extended two-parts version of the Lynch movie, and were burned by the insanely shortened ending and the other cuts of the theatrical one. I recommend checking the extended version out, it will probably change a lot your idea of the movie. I was probably influenced by seeing it before the (criminal) theatrical version.
Lynch's Dune was visionary, at times disturbing and with Kyle McLachlan. Can you really beat a Kyle McLachlan movie? No, I don't think so. xD
In Villeneuve's version I was e.g. shocked by how watered down the Baron Harkonnens is; the movies are just bland and Hollywood-y.
The music is as banal and badly employed as any average Hollywood blockbuster; the actor chosen for Paul Atreides is as much insipid as Kyle McLachlan was eclectic; Zendaya is incomparable to Sean Young; a couple parts are plain stupid (Gurney's entrance...)
Despite not having the length problems that Lynch had, they managed to compress the ending again; they gave too much time to unimportant parts while compressing the ending and other important passages (the final battle lasts what, five minutes? Does he actually cross the desert??).
Some actor choices seem good (Florence Pugh, Rebecca Ferguson...), but yes not some of the most important.
And I did like a lot Blade Runner 2049, I think I liked Denis Villeneuve, but these movies made me change idea.
To be clear, it's not the worst movie I ever saw; it's simply bland, and I think it's bewildering that this version gets praise while Lynch's one is considered junk.
I should say that I never managed to read the books, though, that might play a role in these opinions.
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#153I do hope so! I love Denis Villeneuve, but felt initially that Dune part one didn't live up to the standard I was used to from him. Mostly due to the structure and pacing. But Villeneuve did explicitly intend this as a two-parter, and I've held on to the hope that it was all intentional and that his decisions will serve the films as a whole experience.
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#154Saw it on the 25th, what I love is how I didn't doubt the world for a single second. I never thought to myself they're in some desert on earth, but truly that this is some far away planet far in the future.
Weird, I was surprised by how much it looks like normal desert.
In a scene they supposedly point to the spice, but it's plain shimmering sand, there doesn't even seem to be any effect!
The theater where I watched it was not great, but I don't think it was that
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#155I couldn’t get thru the first one. Absolute snooze fest.
I find it interesting how divisive this movie is. Many of my friends thought it was immensely boring. One even fell asleep halfway thorough. I found the first movie so incredibly captivating that it immediately became my favourite movie and I've gone on to read the first few books. I've seen it I think 10 times now. I watched Part II on the 25th. Really really good. Having read the book now there's some things I miss…
Did you see Lynch's one before it?
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm 44 and I think Lynch'n Dune is better, because it has soul . The first movie was very sterile and lifeless. I commented about it here a while ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38980303
Mid-50's here and really didn't like Lynch's version that much, but was quite underwhelmed with Part 1. That said, I think you nailed the two movies in two sentences. Of Lynch's version I often quip that it was both good and original - however the parts that were original were not good, and the parts that were good were not original. In short - I did not like the divergences from the source material that much. It did…
The scene that sealed the deal for me was Paul's awakening: I absolutely loved how it was done in Lynch's version, complete with the grand score by Toto, and it was so, so bland and uninspiring in Villeneuve's version.
Mind you, there were great moments in it too, and my ideal Dune movie would take things from both movies (and also from that [0] Dune 1 game!), but overall Lynch's direction was better for me.
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#157Loved part1c which I saw just last week on Netflix in preparation for this.
Honestly, I hated the Lynch movie. It has its many positives, but for me, all of it was negated and the movie completely fell flat on its face as soon as Weirding Modules came out. Totally ruined the movie for me. I’ve watched it several times, and each time I see the weirding modules I cringe.
I still don’t understand what the problem with “Kung Fu in Space” was.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd put Everything Everywhere All at Once on that list, depending how you define sci-fi. One of the best films of the decade, in my opinion.
I really want to know why you liked it, reason I ask is I came into the movie wanting to love it and couldn't finish it(ended it half way). I just disliked it so much. For me: the story seemed so childish(like a middle schooler wrote it), the characters didn't seem quite interesting(I did like that the main character was an older lady as you do not see that typically in film), and the dialogue really corny. I know al…
For me, it resonated strongly with me because I"m a middle aged Asian American with immigrant parents and I have young kids. It hits me in a lot of levels emotionally. I get why someone who doesn't share my background not get it. Also, you kind of need to be in the mood for that type of humor.
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#159I just came back from seeing 'Dune: Part two". I feel very disappointed. In a sense, Denis Villeneuve, is like Paul. It looks like that when Villeneuve smelled success, he could not withstand the pressure and instead staying true to the book made it into an action film, of which we already have so many, and which is full of plot-holes like we are used to these kind of films. I will not even start comparing the script to the book, like I did for the first book. I feel betrayed. He squandered the legacy of Frank Herbert.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Plenty of good sci-fi, but mostly on TV. Care to share? I can't name a single one besides 'The Expanse'.
Andor , Severance , and Devs come to mind, even though they're different types of thrillers to some extent. Have heard good things about Station Eleven . Even on Apple TV+ alone there are plenty to choose from, though funnily enough the one I've been watching the most is not the critically-acclaimed For All Mankind , but climate disaster drama Extrapolations : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39543480 Fired on Ma…
Thank you, I'll have to give Andor another try.
Couldn't get into it on the first go.