Pull not being a good model of two way communications is going to be the major blocker here in my opinion. It's going to mean that people are only going to see comments and reactions on their posts or comments from people they already subscribe to, because their RSS reader would have no possible way of knowing if anyone outside of that list commented, since you can't get notified of content sources you don't already…
Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
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Re: Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
#92This article, and many others that promote a highly decentralized internet, consistently fail to address the vast majority of the population who are not developers or extremely tech savvy. > This is in contrast to personal blogging, where every Bob can easily host their own (and they often do). A key word in this sentence is "often". I would argue that hosting your own blog is exceptionally rare at the population lev…
> consistently fail to address the vast majority of the population who are not developers or extremely tech savvy. My feeling after a number of years in the field us we massively underestimate users. We have read all these blog posts about what Amazon and Google does to make people click and we think the same applies to us. But we aren't trying to get the last few percents of the worlds population fall into our dark…
Re: Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
#93Pull not being a good model of two way communications is going to be the major blocker here in my opinion. It's going to mean that people are only going to see comments and reactions on their posts or comments from people they already subscribe to, because their RSS reader would have no possible way of knowing if anyone outside of that list commented, since you can't get notified of content sources you don't already…
Re: Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
#94Decentralization is just a parameter of how many people choose to join an existing server or create their own.
Re: Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure I have strong feelings about it, but here are a few thoughts: 1. I think a more universal content aggregation / discovery tool would be beneficial for many people. Google might be the analog that comes to mind. This makes me wonder how such an aggregator/search tool would operate in a decentralized way. Would each user/node be responsible for maintaining its own index? My question to you is how does this…
thanks for the thoughts. 1. I suspect something like Google, indexing feeds instead of websites, and also mapping what is a reaction to what, perhaps. something that makes a bit suspicious about the potential of this though, is the fact that we've had nice rss readers for so many years and none have embarked on something like this, although I think there was a huge potential if they could properly index youtube chann…
Re: Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
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#97Yes, we can easily get more decentralized that the Fediverse, and we have. Both Secure Scuttlebutt and Urbit are peer-to-peer social networking, with rather different takes on what that means. There might be more, those are the ones I'm aware of.
We need better-than-bittorrent p2p social swarms that are fast, efficient, and massive. I want for when someones posts an article, to have my local custom filters flag it for interest, schedule it for reading, grab the photos and videos, pull in relevant comments (again filtered, perhaps to my interest graph peers and highly-ranked dissenting opinions), and never have to step foot on the corrupted, ad-ridden, algorit…
Re: Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your first sentence is the exact reason why propaganda thrives in social media. There's an understanding that fellow people are somehow more trustworthy than Big Media. The part that's not considered is that people on a whole are not able to understand every intricacy of problems out in the world - but they sure do love sharing opinions about every problem as if they do understand. Given this, easy-to-digest messages…
100% agree. I think Reddit is a huge propaganda machine in itself. The most ironic thread I’ve seen was a headline about how Republicans were more susceptible to propaganda, with every comment of course being 3-10 words amounting to “oh yeah so true, they’re terrible”. Anyone that actually read past the headline though could see the article was total nonsense. I suppose it may be harder to control since a central aut…
Very interesting shift in media consumption, and it may help explain the sensational/disconnected headlines.
Re: Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
#99Yes, we can easily get more decentralized that the Fediverse, and we have. Both Secure Scuttlebutt and Urbit are peer-to-peer social networking, with rather different takes on what that means. There might be more, those are the ones I'm aware of.
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#100> Personal instances will be pretty rare Personal instances of the US Post Office are also pretty rare, my dude. You gonna go deliver your mail yourself? If so, why write a letter? You want total distributed decentralization? Use Gnutella. It's equivalent to giving your letter to your neighbor and asking them to deliver it, and they ask their neighbor, etc, until it reaches a back alley in Algeria, and then that Alge…
And basically, convenience won big time.
These are not mutually exclusive though. We need decentralized services to fight discrimination and censorship. But, I agree that there is also disproportionate obsession with decentralization at the moment.