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Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by nullindividual »

hyggetrold wrote: post #26
jamager wrote: post #10

> Even better than the first film The first part left me quite underwhelmed, tbh. Maybe I had too high expectations given the director, but while the visuals are amazing, the characterization of some characters (like lady Jessica or Thufir Hawat) are very far from how the books depicts them, and I don't think is an interpretation thing. I understand that Dune is too big of a masterpiece for a simple 2 part movie (it…

> I understand that Dune is too big of a masterpiece for a simple 2 part movie (it should be a 6-8 session series at least) I am a massive Dune fan as well and share this sentiment. Same for Lord of the Rings. On some level those books are simply unadaptable if the goal is to be totally true to the original text. For myself, I am always happy to see adaptations since it will always lead someone to the books who would…

To be fair, the audience for movies and books simply aren't the same. If you tried to fully faithfully adapt LotR, you'd have Alex Jones proclaiming the frogs got to Tom Bombadil and turned him into a dirty liberal hippie.

It would just be too confusing/weird for on-screen.

I'd watch it on repeat until I turned into that skeleton waiting meme.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by mcphage »

skywhopper wrote: post #31
jamager wrote: post #10

> Even better than the first film The first part left me quite underwhelmed, tbh. Maybe I had too high expectations given the director, but while the visuals are amazing, the characterization of some characters (like lady Jessica or Thufir Hawat) are very far from how the books depicts them, and I don't think is an interpretation thing. I understand that Dune is too big of a masterpiece for a simple 2 part movie (it…

I do think it's inevitable that a film adaptation will let down any major fan of the original book. There's simply a barrier between media that cannot be reconciled, certainly not for any story as complex and expansive as Dune. (Sounds like this movie is at least three parts, for what it's worth.)

> I do think it's inevitable that a film adaptation will let down any major fan of the original book. There's simply a barrier between media that cannot be reconciled, certainly not for any story as complex and expansive as Dune.

I don't think this is true. I agree that they are different media, and any adaptation will inherently be an adaptation. But that shouldn't lead to disappointment. You can appreciate both for their differences, as long as they each succeed in their own approach.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by haunter »

subsubzero wrote: post #53
onion2k wrote: post #8

There haven't been many good sci-fi films in the past decade though, especially if you think the Marvel cinematic universe is boring. Competition is thin.

agree, Dune for me was one, Inception being another. I liked Moon(small budget but excellent), interstellar was ok. And thats about it.

Ones I liked are Arrival, Interstellar, Her, and Pacific Rim

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by nullindividual »

bee_rider wrote: post #45
jamager wrote: post #10

> Even better than the first film The first part left me quite underwhelmed, tbh. Maybe I had too high expectations given the director, but while the visuals are amazing, the characterization of some characters (like lady Jessica or Thufir Hawat) are very far from how the books depicts them, and I don't think is an interpretation thing. I understand that Dune is too big of a masterpiece for a simple 2 part movie (it…

I didn’t see the first one but I’m under the impression that neither of the remakes feature Sting so I’m not sure why people are watching them.

I was too young when it was released, but wasn't it Sting's diaper that got everyone into the theater?

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by azemetre »

sonicanatidae wrote: post #85
floren wrote: post #80

It seems that reviewers like this are still on the Paul-as-hero boat. It's easy to take the first film and even the book that way, despite the premonitions of future destruction and disaster that exist in both, and I assume part 2 is going to largely continue the same way. But I really hope Villeneuve has the guts to hold true to Herbert's overall message about "heroes", where after defeating the evil Harkonnens and…

They likely won't get to that point. I expect them to end this Dune like the 80s Dune ended or very close. The points you bring up are really 2nd book and beyond and I suspect trying to add that in would just confuse people who don't already know the Dune story. They would also be tough to communicate in a video format, as compared to a book, as the depth will be lost. Regardless, I'm anxious to watch part 2 of the c…

I'm pretty sure Denis Villeneuve has said on the record that he plans on adapting Dune Messiah if the movies are successful, which is a great bookend to Paul Atreides story.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by olivergregory »

nick238 wrote: post #61
fakedang wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I can easily recollect the first half of the first movie, but after Paul meeting the Fremen, I barely remember anything out of the movie.

Didn't they meet, Paul fought Jamis, then that was basically the end? I thought that was maybe the last fifth of the movie, not half.

Yes, that's correct. The 2 starts there.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by GeekyBear »

hax0ron3 wrote: post #73
GeekyBear wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The first part left me quite underwhelmed The books are chock full of the various character's internal dialog, and when you make the choice to leave that aspect out, there is quite a bit of richness missing. This version went the "show, don't tell" route. Visually, its amazing, but so much additional information from the book to help you understand the characters, the groups they belong to, and their motivations wa…

I don't know why so many people hate the whispery Lynch Dune voiceovers. I think they work great to convey both extra content and the mysterious, intrigue-laden mood of the book.

I love the Lynch version's sets, costumes, props, and art direction in general.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by sonicanatidae »

azemetre wrote: post #115
sonicanatidae wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They likely won't get to that point. I expect them to end this Dune like the 80s Dune ended or very close. The points you bring up are really 2nd book and beyond and I suspect trying to add that in would just confuse people who don't already know the Dune story. They would also be tough to communicate in a video format, as compared to a book, as the depth will be lost. Regardless, I'm anxious to watch part 2 of the c…

I'm pretty sure Denis Villeneuve has said on the record that he plans on adapting Dune Messiah if the movies are successful, which is a great bookend to Paul Atreides story.

That would be awesome. I would love to see his take on the next part.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by lucsky »

hammock wrote: post #37

I would like to see the average age of people who prefer the new Dune movie to the old David Lynch one. Are you all Millennials and younger?

I would agree that the cinematographic qualities of each movies are debatable, but the old David Lynch one will always be vastly superior for the single fact that Toto's (and Brian Eno) soundtrack is 3.7 thousand times better (give or take) than the uninspired bland soup that Hans Zimmer has been serving.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by bee_rider »

nullindividual wrote: post #114
bee_rider wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn’t see the first one but I’m under the impression that neither of the remakes feature Sting so I’m not sure why people are watching them.

I was too young when it was released, but wasn't it Sting's diaper that got everyone into the theater?

I dunno, I wasn’t born yet
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