Are US EV sales a disaster or a booming segment? The answer may be both
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Re: Are US EV sales a disaster or a booming segment? The answer may be both
#2The answer for me is just that I'll buy one when it's better.
Particularly for larger vehicles such as vans it just doesn't make sense. It's more expensive both to buy and to run, the payload is reduced due to the additional weight, and the range is lower.
I imagine in 5-10 years that won't be the case, but for now, there's no point in me being an early adopter.
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#3For people living in apartments, with the building providing no way to charge your vehicle, especially when parked outside, the value proposition is a lot less tempting.
Takes 5 minutes to get gas, gas stations are everywhere, but having to find a charging station for your EV and having to sit there for an hour or longer is just not appealing if the tradeoff is the good feelings of one's microscopic contribution to saving the planet. You want me to pay more for extra inconvenience.
I'm sure that will change eventually, but at this point it works best for home owners with garages, which isn't everybody.
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#5To get a decent daily cross the city charger installed in my garage, I have to spend some $3,000 just on electrical work because I have to upgrade service. Currently unsubsidized because my government doesn’t believe climate change is real. This is before the average $700 to install the charger.
Vehicle prices have skyrocketed, and while my family makes well in to 6 figures, cars are just not a thing we want to spent lots of money on. Dropping 80k on a vehicle is WAY past what we’d ever consider.
Critical infrastructure is non-existent for highway trips (again, government doesn’t believe in climate change).
For me it’s simply not practical. There’s too many annoying barriers.
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#6EV utility is less than ICE cars, but far worse than commuter rail. Most of the pollution in the bay area is from car tires. So if they really want to clean that up, they need to switch to light rail and inter city express rail
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#7EV utility is less than ICE cars, but far worse than commuter rail. Most of the pollution in the bay area is from car tires. So if they really want to clean that up, they need to switch to light rail and inter city express rail
That's wild, didn't know that. Is anything doable about car tires short of not driving a car? Are people perhaps looking into better materials for this problem?
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#8It's really unfortunate for others that there are still that many hurdles.
My ev is so more agile and makes a lot of fun.
True not cheap and getting the electric right was like 1.5k on top but hey still a ton cheaper than a normal car with speeds anything close to my ev.
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#9EV utility is less than ICE cars, but far worse than commuter rail. Most of the pollution in the bay area is from car tires. So if they really want to clean that up, they need to switch to light rail and inter city express rail
The Bay Area's pollution is very low compared to most other cities in the world. People from those cities wish that their pollution primarily came from car tires.
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#10To get a decent daily cross the city charger installed in my garage, I have to spend some $3,000 just on electrical work because I have to upgrade service. Currently unsubsidized because my government doesn’t believe climate change is real. This is before the average $700 to install the charger. Vehicle prices have skyrocketed, and while my family makes well in to 6 figures, cars are just not a thing we want to spent…
Just curious, why did you use "80k" as a figure for car prices? That's very deep into luxury car prices. You can easily get a fully electric 2023+ model car used with less than 10k miles for $25k, and new ones in the 30s.