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Apple orders 10 episodes of a Neuromancer TV series
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Re: Apple orders 10 episodes of a Neuromancer TV series
#12After what they did to Foundation, I haven't got the least bit of interest.
agree, the show betrays essential principles of the trilogy. Why even have psychohistory at all if you’re throwing away everything that stems from it?
especially sad, considering that it has a solid cast and looks beautiful
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#13After what they did to Foundation, I haven't got the least bit of interest.
Yes. Here's hoping. I watched Foundation to the end, no matter how bad it got. Just can't stop watching the Live Action adaptations of the old favorites. 'Peripheral', also watched it all, no matter how bad. etc... So, I'll watch this one too. They must know they have built in audience that will accept anything. Why can't there be more like 'Expanse'?
I enjoyed Peripheral, having not read the book. I'd be curious to hear (spoiler-free) criticisms. (The concept was compelling enough, I definitely intend to read the series, especially given its cancellation.)
Re: Apple orders 10 episodes of a Neuromancer TV series
#14After what they did to Foundation, I haven't got the least bit of interest.
agree, the show betrays essential principles of the trilogy. Why even have psychohistory at all if you’re throwing away everything that stems from it? especially sad, considering that it has a solid cast and looks beautiful
I think Apple just wanted their own Game of Thrones flagship, and on paper, Foundation seems like it should be that (epic scale, big ideas). But honestly, it needs a more subdued treatment: mostly talking heads in rooms, and an anthology that jumps forward decades with each episode, rotating characters as necessary.
Blockbuster narratives need heroes, which works directly at cross-purposes to the long-term systemic thinking that defines the books. There was probably never a scenario where the high price of buying the rights could match up with the size of audience for a more faithful adaptation. (And rightly or wrongly, non-book-readers seem broadly positive on the series.)
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Here's hoping. I watched Foundation to the end, no matter how bad it got. Just can't stop watching the Live Action adaptations of the old favorites. 'Peripheral', also watched it all, no matter how bad. etc... So, I'll watch this one too. They must know they have built in audience that will accept anything. Why can't there be more like 'Expanse'?
I enjoyed Peripheral, having not read the book. I'd be curious to hear (spoiler-free) criticisms. (The concept was compelling enough, I definitely intend to read the series, especially given its cancellation.)
Guess Peripheral wasn't 'bad'.
Just falls prey to same problems of book-tv translation. The book was a pretty high concept idea, and just didn't think it translated well.
So on a ranking of 'good->bad' ,'book->TV' translations, it actually wasn't at bottom. It was ok. Just middling. Book was better. I'm being too judgmental.
Re: Apple orders 10 episodes of a Neuromancer TV series
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
agree, the show betrays essential principles of the trilogy. Why even have psychohistory at all if you’re throwing away everything that stems from it? especially sad, considering that it has a solid cast and looks beautiful
I think Apple just wanted their own Game of Thrones flagship, and on paper, Foundation seems like it should be that (epic scale, big ideas). But honestly, it needs a more subdued treatment: mostly talking heads in rooms, and an anthology that jumps forward decades with each episode, rotating characters as necessary. Blockbuster narratives need heroes, which works directly at cross-purposes to the long-term systemic t…
> I think Apple just wanted their own Game of Thrones flagship
Dune makes the most sense for TV and not the movies. A lot of the political subtlety is lost in the movies
Re: Apple orders 10 episodes of a Neuromancer TV series
#17dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39543281
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Re: Apple orders 10 episodes of a Neuromancer TV series
#18After what they did to Foundation, I haven't got the least bit of interest.
Neuromancer is way easier to translate to the screen. It’s not far from Bladerunner.
The problem with Foundation is that it’s more of a historical account about empires rather than about individual characters which is made much worse when the screenwriters decided to add space magic to the mix
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#19"He never saw Molly again." I wonder if they'll be able to honor that one if the show is successful. :)
As the series goes, though, we do see Molly again. We don't see Case again. I never thought about that until now.
Re: Apple orders 10 episodes of a Neuromancer TV series
#20After what they did to Foundation, I haven't got the least bit of interest.
To have a counter view of the few being unhappy as usual that a tv adaptation doesn't mean being the same as the book: foundation as a TV show is great.
I love it, would love to see more of it but I will probably start reading the books later.