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Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by Keyframe »

hammock wrote: post #37

I would like to see the average age of people who prefer the new Dune movie to the old David Lynch one. Are you all Millennials and younger?

Lynch's world building, Captain Picard vs Sting, rather well-acted, Toto's soundtrack, that intro (oh man, that intro).. what's not to like! I see it as completely different takes, I prefer the old one - has soul to it. Kind of same with old Blade Runner vs 2049. Newer films are technically awesome, yet kind of vapid. And, yes - tastes are different, but let's talk in 20 or so years and see which stick. Old ones already stuck. Kind of similar to how people shat on SW prequels, yet they're still with us in popular culture, new ones not very much.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by boppo1 »

retskrad wrote: post #77

I’ve noticed that the larger the scale and budget a movies get, the more vacate the film is. A small scale film like The Social Network is much bigger to me than Dune 2 which I recently saw through a friend working in the film industry. Dune 2 is one of the largest scale films ever made but its thoughts and ideas are equally small in the other direction. It’s valid to be mesmerized by the technical feat and the sheer…

Yeah I feel this. I just watched Prisoners for the first time and didn't realize it was Villanueve. It felt like a much more impactful and 'whole' film than Dune Part One.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by queuebert »

doc_gunthrop wrote: post #38
boppo1 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first was okay. I was disappointed, I really like villenueve's other work. But it was just kinda stale.

It suffers partially from contrived exposition. It seems whenever a Dune film is made, the filmmakers tend to try to include as much of the lore as tolerably possible. They could've just started off the first film with Paul entering a room to encounter Gaius Helen Mohiam and the audience being introduced to the box.

That's too early -- we'd have no reason to care about him by then. But that would work as the second scene potentially.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by aqme28 »

jamager wrote: post #10

> Even better than the first film The first part left me quite underwhelmed, tbh. Maybe I had too high expectations given the director, but while the visuals are amazing, the characterization of some characters (like lady Jessica or Thufir Hawat) are very far from how the books depicts them, and I don't think is an interpretation thing. I understand that Dune is too big of a masterpiece for a simple 2 part movie (it…

I've probably seen Dune 1984 too many times to have an objective opinion, but I feel like the acting in Dune Part 1 is comparitively very very muted. All the characters (minus Duncan) seem bored the whole time, which is disappointing in relation to the bombastic Shakespearean performances in the Lynch film.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Post by sonicanatidae »

floren wrote: post #80

It seems that reviewers like this are still on the Paul-as-hero boat. It's easy to take the first film and even the book that way, despite the premonitions of future destruction and disaster that exist in both, and I assume part 2 is going to largely continue the same way. But I really hope Villeneuve has the guts to hold true to Herbert's overall message about "heroes", where after defeating the evil Harkonnens and…

They likely won't get to that point. I expect them to end this Dune like the 80s Dune ended or very close.

The points you bring up are really 2nd book and beyond and I suspect trying to add that in would just confuse people who don't already know the Dune story. They would also be tough to communicate in a video format, as compared to a book, as the depth will be lost.

Regardless, I'm anxious to watch part 2 of the current Dune. The first part was great, imo. I only had minor nitpicks, but otherwise fantastic!

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Post by binarymax »

Wistar wrote: post #74

Related: here is last night's Fresh Air interview with Dune director Denis Villeneuve. It is 37 mins long. I listened to it on my drive home. It is a good interview. NPR Fresh Air: "Storyboarding 'Dune' since he was 13, Denis Villeneuve is 'still pinching' himself" https://www.npr.org/2024/02/28/1234472127/dune-denis-villene...

"If I could've made movies without any dialogue, it would have been paradise" ...this is why I love his movies, the visuals and sounds are so beautiful and powerful.

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Post by lowbloodsugar »

hammock wrote: post #37

I would like to see the average age of people who prefer the new Dune movie to the old David Lynch one. Are you all Millennials and younger?

I love 'em both. Very different takes. Lynch took a lot of liberties but did a great job squeezing it into a single movie. I think Lynch captured the religious aspect quite well. I've read all the books. Villeneuve has made an epic series. The casting is great. The music is awesome. Cinematography stunning.
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