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Re: Show HN: We built the fastest spreadsheet

#33

Honestly, I'm really excited about this next generation of spreadsheet software. - Causal.app - Rows.com - Equals.com - and at least 50 others I've found I'm waiting for someone to create a really high performant spreadsheet engine that runs in WASM to power even more spreadsheet-y applications. The direct manipulation of spreadsheets is super underrated.

I just wonder how come there is market for these when Microsoft has Excel online. Any company that has O365 has Excel online as well.

Re: Show HN: We built the fastest spreadsheet

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post #17

This looks really promising. We generate about 1gb of financial CSV files per day for finance/accounting/audit teams and the number one response is "wow this data is great, but my computer just can't handle it". The biggest issue that I think I would run into in my organization is that all of the spreadsheet lovers are Excel die-hards and they refuse to even use Google Sheets, not to mention something else that isn't…

I've found that while people don't want to change out of Excel they are forced to by the size of new files. The more data is generated by computers, the less likely it is to fit in Excel I imagine many professions won't be able to use Excel in 10 years based on this trend.

Unless Microsoft invests in changing that situation.

Re: Show HN: We built the fastest spreadsheet

#35
As someone who used to work on Excel, awesome work and congrats on the launch! I get that it's easy to bash on VBA, but I'd argue it's what made Excel what it is today (though maybe not the language/runtime per se, but rather the ergonomics).

I feel pretty confident saying that probably 5% of the world's economy runs on VBA macros that were started by some eager worker that was tired of doing repetitive tasks and wondered what that "Record Macro" button did. I've heard that same story personally from so many users, about how they learned to code by hitting "Record Macro", doing something and looking at the resulting code. Their macro then grows and grows and ends up powering the entire business, but becomes an unmaintainable mess.

If you add the ability to record macros and maybe a VBA -> Python cross compiler, that would probably be killer for a lot of people. Though honestly, I've seen some stuff in VBA that's probably best left alone (e.g.: a self-rewriting VBA macro).

That being said, I'm sure your biggest hurdles are going to be cultural rather than technical. Excel is just so ingrained in so many business. But I genuinely wish you best of luck and am rooting for y'all!

Re: Show HN: We built the fastest spreadsheet

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post #22

At the time of this comment (edit: since this comment, they addressed this, check the replies), on your pricing page you have "SOC 2 Type II Security Compliance" not being checked off on the free tier but it's checked in the others. The same thing applies to "HIPAA Compliant and BAA" except this isn't enabled for free and pro plans. What makes the free tier different here? Are you storing free data in a different are…

There's no difference in how data is stored or processed between the tiers. We updated our pricing page to address the confusion. We only provide the SOC 2 report or BAA for Business accounts.

Re: Show HN: We built the fastest spreadsheet

#37

Hello all, I'm Grant, founding engineer at Row Zero. Working on this spreadsheet engine has been one of the most exciting, complex, and stimulating engineering experiences of my career. Feel free to ask any technical questions about the product. We're really proud of what we've build and what's on the roadmap!

Tell us about the stack you're using to build this. Also the biggest tech challenges you've faced and solved? But most importantly, does your family still use Google Spreadsheets?

Google Sheets is banned in our households, we planned our neighborhood block party in Row Zero!

Tech stack:

Everything runs on AWS

Frontend: TypeScript + some Rust compiled to WASM, our own virtualized custom canvas magic

Backend: Rust, Apache Arrow

The biggest tech challenges... where to start.

1. As with any editor application, Undo/Redo is devilishly hard

2. A spreadsheet is modeled as a Directed Acyclic Graph where cells depend on other cells down to some root cells. There are a TON of fascinating graph theory algorithms you can bring to bear here. Some of the hardest problems I have ever worked on. My whiteboard looks like an insane person's with crazy arrows between cells and stuff.

3. Sometimes there really is no magic bullet and you just have to run benchmark, get flamegraph, chip away 3%, repeat, do that 100 times and you are very fast. Gotta grind.

Re: Show HN: We built the fastest spreadsheet

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post #22

At the time of this comment (edit: since this comment, they addressed this, check the replies), on your pricing page you have "SOC 2 Type II Security Compliance" not being checked off on the free tier but it's checked in the others. The same thing applies to "HIPAA Compliant and BAA" except this isn't enabled for free and pro plans. What makes the free tier different here? Are you storing free data in a different are…

Generally: the free tier won't get you the documentation --- to get the SOC2 report or the BAA, you need a paid plan. Which makes sense as a segmentation strategy. Especially in the case of SOC2, where providers really should charge for that report.

Re: Show HN: We built the fastest spreadsheet

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> * but spreadsheets on the browser always represent an inferior UX What do you mean by this? Inferior to a standalone app? Inferior to some other design in general?

Inferior to a native app. Navigating it with the keyboard is clunky, the UI is never as crisp and responsive, it's harder to save and open files... the list goes on

Is it true? Google sheets is great, google docs is great, and hyperlinks! How much native app fast UX is due to using local state on disk? The future is not on local disk!

Re: Show HN: We built the fastest spreadsheet

#40
Looks really nice. Too bad you take businesses into hostage regarding the SSO. This is even one one the main argument in your Enterprise plan. I know this is common behavior but I find it sad to have such an important security feature proposed only on latest plan.

Hope this trend will end soon.

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