Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
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Can we get more decentralised than the Fediverse?
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#4Pull not being a good model of two way communications is going to be the major blocker here in my opinion. It's going to mean that people are only going to see comments and reactions on their posts or comments from people they already subscribe to, because their RSS reader would have no possible way of knowing if anyone outside of that list commented, since you can't get notified of content sources you don't already…
And yes, I do realise that such services will tend to not be really decentralised (similar to the relationship of websites and search engines). But that means the downside is not that you don't get such discovery, but that you'll be reliant on more centralised services for such discovery, whereas in the fediverse you would be less reliant on such services for finding out who has commented on your post (though it will, as you've mentioned still not be enough).
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#6I agree that pull is the best model for posts. For comments I still think the best model is to push them to the post author, and let the post author moderate. This way people who can behave civilly can get an initial audience by writing comments, and having a link to their blog in the profile, with no intermediaries involved. If someone doesn't like the moderation, they're always free to write a comment-as-post, wher…
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#7I agree that pull is the best model for posts. For comments I still think the best model is to push them to the post author, and let the post author moderate. This way people who can behave civilly can get an initial audience by writing comments, and having a link to their blog in the profile, with no intermediaries involved. If someone doesn't like the moderation, they're always free to write a comment-as-post, wher…
with presence of such services, the problem of comments (and reactions in general) can be solved too. if a poster is ok with engaging with potentially hostile content, then they can get reactions to their posts from aggregators that aren't heavy handed on moderation. if they don't want to bother with such interactions, then they can choose safer aggregators. if they want, they can only pull reactions from feeds they are already subscribed to, similar to private posts on twitter.
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#10Yes, the answer is Nostr
Four things I love about it:
- It's "just" JSON and WebSockets. From a developer's perspective, it's incredibly easy to get started and build interesting things with it. (Like the early days of Twitter.) Which leads to...
- Nostr culture is tolerant of bots and other automated workflows. (Unlike current management of Twitter)
- Nostr culture is tolerant of search engines. (Unlike fediverse, or at least the Mastodon part, though I appreciate the reasons for that distinction.)
- Built-in micropayment infrastructure with "zaps" and Lightning Network integration enables a ton of interesting new startup idea possibilities.
One thing I don't like about Nostr, the social network. (Not Nostr, the protocol. Those two things are very easily conflated right now):
- Too many Bitcoin bros. (Although personally I don't mind Bitcoin, a thriving platform should have more than one thing to talk about.)