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How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Re: How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Post by joegibbs »

mu53 wrote: post #107
unmole wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If the immigration laws were enforced 100% accurately today, the US economy would falter. Undocumented workers do work in farm, janitorial, restaurant, construction, and other sectors that is irreplaceable through any other reasonable means. The immigration crisis of today is the result of a failure of legislative body to legislate (10% approval ratings are bad). Including other external factors such as corrupt gover…

If the US economy would falter from that I think it deserves it. It’s immoral to have an economy that’s exploiting below-minimum wage workers who can’t complain or will get deported and it suppresses the wages of citizens who want to work in those fields.

There should be full enforcement of both illegal immigration and against the hiring of illegal immigrants.

Re: How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

mu53 wrote: post #107
unmole wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If the immigration laws were enforced 100% accurately today, the US economy would falter. Undocumented workers do work in farm, janitorial, restaurant, construction, and other sectors that is irreplaceable through any other reasonable means. The immigration crisis of today is the result of a failure of legislative body to legislate (10% approval ratings are bad). Including other external factors such as corrupt gover…

> Undocumented workers do work in farm, janitorial, restaurant, construction, and other sectors that is irreplaceable through any other reasonable means.

There is a fairly obvious reasonable means: Issue them work visas. But there is no lobby to do that because the people doing it prefer the status quo where they're cheating on their taxes and getting out of regulatory requirements companies who hire US citizens have to follow.

Enforcing the law is the best way to get the law to change.

Re: How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Post by baranul »

username135 wrote: post #45

One thing I've always been curious about, and have never been able to find a solid answer too, is what data is available to the various companies whose software I have on my phone? What can AT&T/TMobile/etc... learn from my device as my carrier? What can the apps I have installed decern from my device if I allow no access to anything settings? How does this change if I use a vpn? I have an idea of whats possible base…

These are good questions. Would also be great to rank the data as a list, as to what's the most in demand.

Re: How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Post by wenebego »

spamuel wrote: post #104
aussieguy1234 wrote: post #90

This is why you don't let the weather app access your location. In fact, weather apps are one of the main offenders here. ICE in the US has been known to use this same data to track down and harm undocumented migrants. Personally, I have a de-googled Pixel running GrapheneOS. It has a sandboxed version of Google Play, but without the elevated system privileges. I am not signed in to Google at any kind of global devic…

"track down and harm"? Just speak without weird political euphemisms please.

How would you characterize it instead?

Re: How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Post by wenebego »

joegibbs wrote: post #111
mu53 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the immigration laws were enforced 100% accurately today, the US economy would falter. Undocumented workers do work in farm, janitorial, restaurant, construction, and other sectors that is irreplaceable through any other reasonable means. The immigration crisis of today is the result of a failure of legislative body to legislate (10% approval ratings are bad). Including other external factors such as corrupt gover…

If the US economy would falter from that I think it deserves it. It’s immoral to have an economy that’s exploiting below-minimum wage workers who can’t complain or will get deported and it suppresses the wages of citizens who want to work in those fields. There should be full enforcement of both illegal immigration and against the hiring of illegal immigrants.

Why is it better to punish everyone for past mistakes than it is to make the system better by allowing more workers to immigrate legally, and enforcing labor laws?

Re: How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Post by weberer »

eastbound wrote: post #31
prepend wrote: post #21

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Ad serves up an image hosted by the advertiser. Phone makes an http get for the image and gives out its IP. You can also target ads by geography and do a lat/long box over your target area and show a specific ad so you know how many unique users are in that area.

Giving up the IP is against the GDPR.

GDPR just politely requests that companies don't use this data. Do you think the alphabet agencies are actually going to comply?

Re: How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Post by [deleted] »

jevoten wrote: post #110
andrei_says_ wrote: post #95

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I prefer the lest dehumanizing undocumented migrants. Using intentionally dehumanizing language exposes a desire for unchecked cruelty.

Do you have this backwards? Any animal can be "undocumented", and there are in fact strict requirements for cattle documentation if they're to be used as food. But only humans can be criminals. More relevant is perhaps the issue of accuracy - if a US citizen loses their ID, they are "undocumented". Meanwhile an illegal immigrant, even if they have all their papers and the authorities know who they are, i.e. they are…

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Re: How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Post by naveen99 »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #90

This is why you don't let the weather app access your location. In fact, weather apps are one of the main offenders here. ICE in the US has been known to use this same data to track down and harm undocumented migrants. Personally, I have a de-googled Pixel running GrapheneOS. It has a sandboxed version of Google Play, but without the elevated system privileges. I am not signed in to Google at any kind of global devic…

I think either visas should be renamed documents, or undocumented migrants should be renamed unvisa’d migrants. Because between tax-id-numbers, drivers licenses, bank accounts, cell phones, I am sure big brother has some data on them, weather you call that data: documents or visas.

Re: How The Pentagon learned to use targeted ads to find its targets

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Post by Perceval »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #112
mu53 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the immigration laws were enforced 100% accurately today, the US economy would falter. Undocumented workers do work in farm, janitorial, restaurant, construction, and other sectors that is irreplaceable through any other reasonable means. The immigration crisis of today is the result of a failure of legislative body to legislate (10% approval ratings are bad). Including other external factors such as corrupt gover…

> Undocumented workers do work in farm, janitorial, restaurant, construction, and other sectors that is irreplaceable through any other reasonable means. There is a fairly obvious reasonable means: Issue them work visas. But there is no lobby to do that because the people doing it prefer the status quo where they're cheating on their taxes and getting out of regulatory requirements companies who hire US citizens have…

There are huge lobbies supporting seasonal and temporary worker visas.

For one area you mention – farming – there is a specific H-2A seasonal worker visa, and industrial agriculture is a huge lobby.

Hotels, resorts, and other venues use the H-2B non-agricultural temporary worker visas. For example, Trump's properties (in)famously use them to staff up during busy seasons. These companies are also substantial lobbies in favor of guest worker visas.

But these are all temporary work visas, not visas allowing for permanent work and residence in the United States. So they would not cover permanent economic migrants who end up in the restaurant sector or in janitorial work.

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