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'Mathematically perfect' star system being investigated for potential alien tech

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Post by juanani »

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #288
a_gnostic wrote: post #254

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…mostly big piles of rocks… nothing too special…

So these ancient granite constructions exhibit tool markings of computer-aided design precision, laser cutting, and power drilling. These enormous granite obselisks weigh more than even modern cranes can lift. But they were allegedly "hand-chiseled" and lifted from quarries by a dozen men with ropes. Yet no-one with actual modern computers and lasers and drills and cranes has been able to replicate any of it. Oh and…

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Post by hit_to_key »

bitwize wrote: post #287
orthecreedence wrote: post #286

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> Also, none of the planets are in the habitable zone, so it's unlikely there's life on them. Why would somebody want to live on the arms of a clock??

To high-five all the other monkeys round the outer edge of the face, of course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBIg7LEHs-0

Of all places, I did not expect to see a Rhythm Heaven reference on HN. :D Brings back memories

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Post by MattRix »

unrealp wrote: post #300

Clickbait. Isnt this just orbital resonance? My solution to fermi paradox is intelligent civilizations realize futility of life and get enlightened and just die out. Similar to moksha in hinduism.

The entire civilization comes to the belief that life is futile? Seems absurd.

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Post by throaway920181 »

MattRix wrote: post #303
unrealp wrote: post #300

Clickbait. Isnt this just orbital resonance? My solution to fermi paradox is intelligent civilizations realize futility of life and get enlightened and just die out. Similar to moksha in hinduism.

The entire civilization comes to the belief that life is futile? Seems absurd.

There's no way average intelligence gets high enough for that to happen.

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Post by awskinda »

gtirloni wrote: post #264
awskinda wrote: post #174

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Sure, but it’s pretty amazing to me that ChatGPT didn’t just hallucinate a response to a generic request to decode a string. It recognized the string as base64, wrote a valid program to decode it, and returned the correct response. Maybe I’m just old and amazed, but that seems pretty cool (terrifying?) to me.

What's terrifying about it? Serious question. Lately people are associating all sorts of doom to LLMs so I'm curious to understand.

I’m not sure how I feel yet. Rapid rate of change can uproot systems pretty quickly. I guess I’m just holding judgement to see if this is a new Industrial Revolution, and fallout that might occur. Ideally this wouldn’t be a worry, but we don’t live in an ideal world.

I personally use AI as a tool, and feel more productive FWIW.

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Post by inference-lord »

unrealp wrote: post #300

Clickbait. Isnt this just orbital resonance? My solution to fermi paradox is intelligent civilizations realize futility of life and get enlightened and just die out. Similar to moksha in hinduism.

I love this talk from Alan Watts, compliments your idea in my opinion. https://youtu.be/zpDj9Flz-lA?si=WTu3uxb9Q-v3LK9v&t=224

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Post by [deleted] »

stronglikedan wrote: post #127
NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #121

Reminds me of Titius–Bode law[1], where simple equation correctly gave orbits of all the known planets, while predicting one more in asteroid belt and correct distance to Uranus. Only was considered disproven when Neptune didn't work. I would not trust these relations even existing (other than by pure chance). Even less I'd trust any intelligent design behind it [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titius%E2%80%93Bode_l…

> other than by pure chance Barring intelligent design, there's an extremely good chance that at least one of these systems exist, and an equally good chance that only one exists, and we're just lucky enough to have observed it.

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Post by shiroiushi »

samatman wrote: post #241
ars wrote: post #234

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> My theory is that its darkness is down to the fact that the civilisation there has figured out a way to harness solar energy to near 100% capacity, along the lines of a Dyson sphere That doesn't work quite the way you think. If you harness all the energy your planet will start to glow, first red, then white. Eventually becoming as hot as your star, at which point you stop gaining energy. Unless they are somehow con…

Harvesting energy is a misnomer, what we want is the syntropy: the available work. If we turned the Earth into a black body and used all Solar radiation to run computers or move stuff around at the theoretical limit, we'd still need the surrounding space to radiate off the heat as our cold well. So the temperature would be at whatever that equilibrium condition is, but wouldn't steadily increase. The equilibrium cond…

>If we turned the Earth into a black body and used all Solar radiation to run computers

>For the record I'm not in favor of paperclipping the planet like this. If anyone was wondering.

We should do this with Venus instead. It isn't doing anything useful at the moment, and is closer to the Sun than Earth. Mercury might be easier though.

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Post by 31carmichael »

thereisnoself wrote: post #133

I've often thought planet TrEs-2b [0], the darkest planet ever discovered orbiting a star, would be the best candidate for extra terrestrial life. My theory is that its darkness is down to the fact that the civilisation there has figured out a way to harness solar energy to near 100% capacity, along the lines of a Dyson sphere [1]. [0] https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/exoplanet-catalog/1716/tres-2-b [1] https://en.wikiped…

Nope, we are alone....
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