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Re: Why I use Firefox

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post #86

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Internet Explorer did their own thing and damn web standards. Chrome follows the standards.

Well, the chrome people have a hand in writing those standards…

So does Apple, Microsoft and Mozilla. Google/Chrome does not write or edit the standard on their own.

Re: Why I use Firefox

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post #117

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Internet Explorer did their own thing and damn web standards. Chrome follows the standards.

Chrome follows a lot of draft standards that they themselves submitted. Not really the same thing.

The standard is edited and written by Google, Microsoft, Apple and Mozilla.

Re: Why I use Firefox

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great read, I'm using nearly all popular browsers, dedicating them to different purposes. FF is my main driver for the past 2 years, learned new options I'm going to use from your article. Thank you

Re: Why I use Firefox

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post #19

I don't see why I would want to use anything else. Even if Chrome is marginally faster in an arbitrary benchmark test, I doubt I'd notice. And so far, I have no interoperability issues between Firefox on my laptop (macOS) and my iPhone (iOS), which runs Safari + Firefox Focus (because it's all the same webkit underneath). The add-on and plug-in marketplace is quite healthy, too. At the end of the day, I care about op…

> I don't see why I would want to use anything else I use FF, too, but I can see why someone wouldn't want to: It's just not a very good Mac app. Weird windowing and focus bugs in fullscreen mode. Keyboard shortcuts that randomly stop working. Zero scripting capabilities (it used to have the bare minimum, but Mozilla bizarrely ripped it out), and just poor integration in general. My system-wide shortcuts — the ones t…

To be fair, Apple is a bit hostile towards open source developers. I can write windows and linux software from both windows and linux, but to write apple software I need a mac and a developer account that costs money. If firefox depends on patches from the community, they will receive less patches for macos features because of this asymmetry.

Re: Why I use Firefox

#277
post #19

I don't see why I would want to use anything else. Even if Chrome is marginally faster in an arbitrary benchmark test, I doubt I'd notice. And so far, I have no interoperability issues between Firefox on my laptop (macOS) and my iPhone (iOS), which runs Safari + Firefox Focus (because it's all the same webkit underneath). The add-on and plug-in marketplace is quite healthy, too. At the end of the day, I care about op…

> I don't see why I would want to use anything else I use FF, too, but I can see why someone wouldn't want to: It's just not a very good Mac app. Weird windowing and focus bugs in fullscreen mode. Keyboard shortcuts that randomly stop working. Zero scripting capabilities (it used to have the bare minimum, but Mozilla bizarrely ripped it out), and just poor integration in general. My system-wide shortcuts — the ones t…

I use Firefox as my daily driver on my personal and work computers with no issues. I guess YMMV there. I haven’t used chrome for about 3 years now. I keep a chromium browser around o just for testing things across browsers, but I never really need it.

Re: Why I use Firefox

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People always say this but almost never are they able to give examples.

Concrete examples: The web interfaces for both Jitsi and Zoom fail to recognise my web camera. I've gone through the permissions settings a dozen times and Firefox says that it sees camera, but it only displays a black feed. Vivaldi correctly accesses the camera on both sites. imascientist.org.uk makes it "impossible" to sign up for outreach sessions under Firefox. The div with the sessions has a `max-width` paramete…

Very strange. I run Zoom constantly in FF - my company does several events a week that I edit, so i’m thick in the weeds on zoom’s site doing admin/recording management stuff. Almost 3 years on zoom’s site almost every single day, never had to swap browsers. Mac Studio if that matters.

Re: Why I use Firefox

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I, similar to the parent, have very few issues on either my computers or phones. I run Firefox on several different OS's and I just don't have the issues you mention. Do you have some examples of websites that really behave that differently depending on the browser you're using? Having lived through the "best viewed with..." days I'd hoped we were past all that by now!

The most recent ones that I ran into seem to have been fixed based on a quick check. mermaid.js docs site was one of them where nothing on the page was clickable (I think Firefox was rendering an invisible div over the entire page) but this issue wasn't present in Chrome or Safari. That appears to have been fixed. Examples are hard to provide since they almost always get fixed but in the moment its enough pain to alw…

If it always getting fixed shortly after, it probably means something is going on in your settings or in the background that is interfering at the time you are trying to access them. Just my two cents. I know when I run proton vpn, little snitch, my various extensions, etc. one of them is always the culprit no matter what browser I use.

Re: Why I use Firefox

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post #276

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> I don't see why I would want to use anything else I use FF, too, but I can see why someone wouldn't want to: It's just not a very good Mac app. Weird windowing and focus bugs in fullscreen mode. Keyboard shortcuts that randomly stop working. Zero scripting capabilities (it used to have the bare minimum, but Mozilla bizarrely ripped it out), and just poor integration in general. My system-wide shortcuts — the ones t…

To be fair, Apple is a bit hostile towards open source developers. I can write windows and linux software from both windows and linux, but to write apple software I need a mac and a developer account that costs money. If firefox depends on patches from the community, they will receive less patches for macos features because of this asymmetry.

Linux user with no care for Mac features.

Firefox may be open source, but Mozilla is a company with a paid development team. It is exactly these types of issues - UX, UI - on which the dev team should be working. I'm sure that a lot of features come from the open source community, but the polish and sound implementation is on the dev team.

For what it's worth, Firefox on KDE is fine.

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