'Mathematically perfect' star system being investigated for potential alien tech

Post by aptwebapps » Wed, Feb 28, 2024, 5:40 PM UTC

onetimeuse92304 wrote: post #101

I think the authors do not understand how planetary resonances work and how precise (or imprecise) the orbits need to be for the resonance to hold. Resonances are very common. We have lots of resonances in our Solar system in all different places between bodies. For the resonance to be stable, two bodies do not need to have mathematically precise orbits in relation to each other. There is quite a wide margin for erro…

Post by BirAdam » Wed, Feb 28, 2024, 5:41 PM UTC

nicklecompte wrote: post #159

BirAdam wrote: post #151

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Upvoted ya cuz you’re correct. However, I’d add that while nature can absolutely create straight lines, it is often advisable to investigate for prior human activity if you stumble upon a straight line in a cave or under the ocean.

My point is that the phrase "mathematically perfect" is very misleading because it makes us think of straight lines and perfect circles but this simply is not the same kind of mathematical "perfection." I suspect this is more like an unusually high-quality gemstone than it is an perfectly round rock - very rare but not particularly mysterious. In particular this is an example of the six -body problem and orbital reso…

Post by PoignardAzur » Wed, Feb 28, 2024, 5:42 PM UTC

julienchastang wrote: post #152

thereisnoself wrote: post #133

I've often thought planet TrEs-2b [0], the darkest planet ever discovered orbiting a star, would be the best candidate for extra terrestrial life. My theory is that its darkness is down to the fact that the civilisation there has figured out a way to harness solar energy to near 100% capacity, along the lines of a Dyson sphere [1]. [0] https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/exoplanet-catalog/1716/tres-2-b [1] https://en.wikiped…

The NASA exoplanet visualizer is very cool. Did not know about that. Thanks for sharing. I imagine those hypothetical visualizations will improve over time as our understanding of the exoplanet data gets better. It is amazing what you can derive from a single pixel of light.

Post by bilekas » Wed, Feb 28, 2024, 5:42 PM UTC

darkmarmot wrote: post #166

bilekas wrote: post #162

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> It would be like saying that because the period of our Moons rotation is so precisely the same as period of its orbit around Earth that it always faces Earth with one side, that somebody must have put the Moon on the orbit I don't think that's the implication though. Life on earth would not be the same without the moon's orbit to provide stable ocean current rides. I would imagine not having that would add extra co…

He's saying that tidally locked bodies are products of simple physics and you can't extrapolate deeper meanings from them.

Post by awskinda » Wed, Feb 28, 2024, 5:43 PM UTC

seanhunter wrote: post #136

awskinda wrote: post #98

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Holy cow. ChatGPT 4 actually decoded this. It went into analysis mode, wrote some python, ran it, and gave the correct answer.

Base64 encoding is a common way of jailbreaking LLMS. The llm just deals with vectorspaces so to it, base64 is just another language for the encoding/tokenization layer to learn.