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The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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The article mentions that these fires are all man made. I assume it's due to increase farmland or ranch land. Can't the Brazilian Government stop this, or is it quietly sanctioned by them?

it's relatively loudly sanctioning them.

Don't mistake noise for action. One thing corrupt people love to do is make loud sounds that they are fighting corruption when they are not doing that, instead having their palms greased by people doing that exact kind of corruption.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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or the site is cleared and goes into a 50 year ‘public use’ lockup, where the developer owns it still, but it must be used for the public good for 50 years. A park or community garden, for example. Basically just enough to make it unattractive as an option for the contractor

Start doing things like this, you just might shake enough of the BS money out of the real estate markets to return to sanity.

You propose to make the real estate markets work better by further restricting supply?

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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The article mentions that these fires are all man made. I assume it's due to increase farmland or ranch land. Can't the Brazilian Government stop this, or is it quietly sanctioned by them?

It's incredibly difficult to contain. These are very remote settlements and deep inland. Furthermore the government is ill-equipped to fight against it all. To have been working for years now on a project to protect the Amazon rainforest in southern Peru, even when pointing the illegal farming operations the government can't do much. At best they are overwhelmed, more often then not they don't even bother intervening if it's not on a national park land or border. Only private conservation efforts are managing to help slow down the spread, and they are very very localized.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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This article doesn’t cover one of the key contributing factors to this which is the cyclical nature of drought resilience and deforestation. As rainforest is lost, precipitation decreases due to a decrease in tree perspiration, reducing humidity and the amount of water available to the trees, making them more susceptible to fires. When you then combine that with longer dry seasons, higher max temperatures, and slash…

The key contributing factor is slash and burn for farming like activities. Your point is more of a long term consequence. The forest is not burning naturally...

I don’t think any part of my comment implied this was happening naturally, but just to clarify: it is a cycle very much driven by human activity. My intent in explaining the cycle wasn’t to say “this is happening anyway without humans starting fires” but to say “not only do fires started burn down trees today but they also make future fires worse”.

Which is why I say it’s a key contributor to the increase in fires, and disagree with it just being a long term consequence, as you say. Because of this cycle, there will be incidences of slash and burn land management that progress to major forest fire that would not have done previously.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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The key contributing factor is slash and burn for farming like activities. Your point is more of a long term consequence. The forest is not burning naturally...

I don’t think any part of my comment implied this was happening naturally, but just to clarify: it is a cycle very much driven by human activity. My intent in explaining the cycle wasn’t to say “this is happening anyway without humans starting fires” but to say “not only do fires started burn down trees today but they also make future fires worse”. Which is why I say it’s a key contributor to the increase in fires, a…

Yes

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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I’ve seen it happen before my own eyes in Toronto. Very popular developer Brad Lamb burns down historical buildings downtown in broad daylight with sometimes multiple attempts taken days apart. He’s highly successful and faces no repercussions.

> On March 23, 2020, Wellington House partially caught on fire amid the COVID-19 pandemic. Police say that at least one small explosion took place inside the abandoned semi-detached houses. Only two days later, the same building caught fire once again. You can't make this up... Jesus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_J._Lamb

That’s the one I saw. A huge plume of smoke in the middle of the day. He’s suspected of other arson activity over the years. Lots of organized crime, criminal business leaders and collusion with politicians here in Canada. But sure it’s democracy.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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“In short, the main origin is the anthropic origin that we talk about, the origin is the man setting fire, whether in a pasture area, next door or directly in the forest to practice, to let it spread”

Compare that to here. Man made fires by people who think fire suppression is the folly of European settlers.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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or the site is cleared and goes into a 50 year ‘public use’ lockup, where the developer owns it still, but it must be used for the public good for 50 years. A park or community garden, for example. Basically just enough to make it unattractive as an option for the contractor

Start doing things like this, you just might shake enough of the BS money out of the real estate markets to return to sanity.

That worked well in the Bay Area. Definitely a bastion of sane real estate markets.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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Start doing things like this, you just might shake enough of the BS money out of the real estate markets to return to sanity.

You propose to make the real estate markets work better by further restricting supply?

Are you advocating for increasing supply through arson?
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