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The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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Post by wahnfrieden »

rootusrootus wrote: post #23
smcl wrote: post #19

Interesting that this kind of problem exists elsewhere. What happens in the UK is a developer buys a "listed" building - meaning it has a special status that means you need to preserve it and cannot knock it and down then, say, build a bunch of flats or offices on the same location. These buildings have a very unfortunate tendency to burn down overnight, leaving said developers with little option but to build apartme…

That seems like such an easy thing to fix, though. The land a listed building is sitting on should be zoned only for the listed building. If it burns down, it gets rebuilt exactly, or donated to the public. Allowing developers to benefit from such "accidents" is the problem.

Govt leadership is in bed with developers and would never enact such restrictions. But you can dream about how liberal processes could lead to rules you like better and try the well worn strategy of voting and waiting.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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Post by NikkiA »

vondur wrote: post #32

The article mentions that these fires are all man made. I assume it's due to increase farmland or ranch land. Can't the Brazilian Government stop this, or is it quietly sanctioned by them?

Have you seen how bad crime is in high density parts of Brazil? And you think they have the police force required to enforce rules on a 7 million km² area?

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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Post by adgjlsfhk1 »

vondur wrote: post #32

The article mentions that these fires are all man made. I assume it's due to increase farmland or ranch land. Can't the Brazilian Government stop this, or is it quietly sanctioned by them?

it's relatively loudly sanctioning them.

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Post by _fizz_buzz_ »

vondur wrote: post #32

The article mentions that these fires are all man made. I assume it's due to increase farmland or ranch land. Can't the Brazilian Government stop this, or is it quietly sanctioned by them?

The Amazon rain Forrest has also become much drier due to climate change.

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Post by tetris11 »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #30
smcl wrote: post #19

Interesting that this kind of problem exists elsewhere. What happens in the UK is a developer buys a "listed" building - meaning it has a special status that means you need to preserve it and cannot knock it and down then, say, build a bunch of flats or offices on the same location. These buildings have a very unfortunate tendency to burn down overnight, leaving said developers with little option but to build apartme…

I’ve seen it happen before my own eyes in Toronto. Very popular developer Brad Lamb burns down historical buildings downtown in broad daylight with sometimes multiple attempts taken days apart. He’s highly successful and faces no repercussions.

> On March 23, 2020, Wellington House partially caught on fire amid the COVID-19 pandemic. Police say that at least one small explosion took place inside the abandoned semi-detached houses. Only two days later, the same building caught fire once again.

You can't make this up... Jesus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_J._Lamb

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Post by thomasstephan »

jna_sh wrote: post #10

This article doesn’t cover one of the key contributing factors to this which is the cyclical nature of drought resilience and deforestation. As rainforest is lost, precipitation decreases due to a decrease in tree perspiration, reducing humidity and the amount of water available to the trees, making them more susceptible to fires. When you then combine that with longer dry seasons, higher max temperatures, and slash…

The key contributing factor is slash and burn for farming like activities. Your point is more of a long term consequence. The forest is not burning naturally...

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Post by xyst »

vondur wrote: post #32

The article mentions that these fires are all man made. I assume it's due to increase farmland or ranch land. Can't the Brazilian Government stop this, or is it quietly sanctioned by them?

Last I heard the largest export for Brazil is their meat. The largest producer of meat is in fact headquartered and based out of Brazil — JBS, SA.

They are a very corrupt entity [1,2,3] and likely have many Brazilian politicians in their pocket/on payroll. The list of controversies this company has would put Goldman Sachs to shame [4]. So it would not surprise me if the government was blind to the destruction of Amazon Rainforest.

At this point, I am okay with the world taking ownership of the Amazon Rainforest and delegating protection to the natives that live in the Amazon Rainforest.

Fuck JBS. Fuck the corrupt Brazilian government.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/meat-giant-jbss-owner-settles-u...

[2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-15/brazil-s-...

[3] https://www.wsj.com/articles/jbs-parent-to-pay-3-16-billion-...

[4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_S.A.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

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Post by hnal943 »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #22

Madison WI hit a new February all time temperature record. It was the average June temperature. They warned forever that after the ocean and glaciers absorbed a certain amount of excess heat that air temperatures would hockey-stick. I was hoping I wouldn't live through it.

of course today in Madison the high is 15°F
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