Live data from Hacker News

The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

brazil.postsen.com

11–20 of 57 posts

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

#11

+286% is nearly 4x (100% => 386%), not nearly 3x. > the number of fires this year for [Feb 1-Feb 25] already exceeds those recorded in the last seven years [for Feb] So that would be 2017-2023 ? So those would be the years since the last El Niño (2014-2016), I wonder how it compares ? (Did we even have the measurement infrastructure during that previous cycle ??)

Actually, El Nino is forecast to end this fall and turn into La Nina.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

#12
post #7

It’s been 25 years since I first flew over the Amazon at night. I remember wondering what those ragged orange arcs on the ground were. At first I thought they were the lights of coastal settlements, but the map showed us hundreds of miles inland.

It has also been 25 years since the Rainforest Action Network (RAN) in the US had their fundraising vodka parties and reliable bumpersticker activism. wtf did they get done? this is miserable

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

#13

+286% is nearly 4x (100% => 386%), not nearly 3x. > the number of fires this year for [Feb 1-Feb 25] already exceeds those recorded in the last seven years [for Feb] So that would be 2017-2023 ? So those would be the years since the last El Niño (2014-2016), I wonder how it compares ? (Did we even have the measurement infrastructure during that previous cycle ??)

Actually, El Nino is forecast to end this fall and turn into La Nina.

El Nino is collapsing quickly; el nina is forecast by summer now.

https://iri.columbia.edu/our-expertise/climate/forecasts/ens...

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

#14
post #7

It’s been 25 years since I first flew over the Amazon at night. I remember wondering what those ragged orange arcs on the ground were. At first I thought they were the lights of coastal settlements, but the map showed us hundreds of miles inland.

It has also been 25 years since the Rainforest Action Network (RAN) in the US had their fundraising vodka parties and reliable bumpersticker activism. wtf did they get done? this is miserable

Why do you single them out in particular? There are lots of advocacy groups. Ultimately it comes down to politics in the Amazon states.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

#15
post #7

It’s been 25 years since I first flew over the Amazon at night. I remember wondering what those ragged orange arcs on the ground were. At first I thought they were the lights of coastal settlements, but the map showed us hundreds of miles inland.

It has also been 25 years since the Rainforest Action Network (RAN) in the US had their fundraising vodka parties and reliable bumpersticker activism. wtf did they get done? this is miserable

They did manage to create a bunch of $200K jobs for the well connected activists.

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

#17
post #10

This article doesn’t cover one of the key contributing factors to this which is the cyclical nature of drought resilience and deforestation. As rainforest is lost, precipitation decreases due to a decrease in tree perspiration, reducing humidity and the amount of water available to the trees, making them more susceptible to fires. When you then combine that with longer dry seasons, higher max temperatures, and slash…

> the rainforest is in for a bad time

you mean: we are in for a bad time ?

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

#18

+286% is nearly 4x (100% => 386%), not nearly 3x. > the number of fires this year for [Feb 1-Feb 25] already exceeds those recorded in the last seven years [for Feb] So that would be 2017-2023 ? So those would be the years since the last El Niño (2014-2016), I wonder how it compares ? (Did we even have the measurement infrastructure during that previous cycle ??)

In general, I wish people would avoid >100% increase type formulations. Like biweekly, it confuses a lot of people, even if they should probably know better (or aren't sure if the person writing it used it correctly).

Re: The Amazon forest has an almost 3x year-on-year increase in fires in February

#19
Interesting that this kind of problem exists elsewhere. What happens in the UK is a developer buys a "listed" building - meaning it has a special status that means you need to preserve it and cannot knock it and down then, say, build a bunch of flats or offices on the same location. These buildings have a very unfortunate tendency to burn down overnight, leaving said developers with little option but to build apartments or offices there.

Just one of those things, eh!

Post reply on HN