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Re: Why I use Firefox

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post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't even recall the names and purpose any of their other side projects other than some janky mobile phone OS and hardware attempt. But clearly they've put a lot of staffing resources and money into some of them.

Rust was a Mozilla side project for a while. Then (if I'm remembering the posts right), they laid off most of the team.

Wasn’t that servo?

Re: Why I use Firefox

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post #20

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One can self-host the sync server. I do this and it works great across Android and a Linux desktop, including live showing which tabs are open.

Sync can be self-hosted but the equally necessary auth-service is centralised at Mozilla. This does not make sense from a technical perspective and is reason for me to not use Firefox sync. I used to run is predecessor and liked the services it provided so I'd like to run the whole current stack as well but alas.

My understanding is that can be self-hosted as well, it's just slightly more annoying.

Re: Why I use Firefox

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I also use Firefox, as a secondary browser, but the only reason I share with the author is Mozilla's independant web engine. My main reasons for sticking with FF are that I'm distrustful of Google's policies and that I'm influenced by decades of free software lobbying at Mozilla. And the exclusive extension Tree-Style-Tabs, even if it's unstable.

I disagree with most of theirs arguments in favor of Firefox.

> 1. The about:config page

Even Mozilla does not recommend this. The settings on the about:config page are undocumented and can disappear or change their behavior with any new release.

I used to set a line in "about:config" so that FF always asked before quitting. It stopped working. I checked Firefox's wiki, nothing new. I had to read the source code to understand that the setting was now meaningless: its value was ignored when the setting "restore session" was enabled. The code had evolved, but it was not reflected in the UI. I don't understand why each setting in about:config doesn't have an embedded description.

> 2. Mozilla cannot decrypt my data on their servers

Same with other browsers, e.g. Vivaldi.

I agree with 4, but I don't care/use 3, 5, 6.

I've met a few sites where Firefox was not welcome (e.g. Jitsi meeting with screen sharing), so I would make it my primary browser only if there was a very strong incentive. But they're too similar to Chromium. Vivaldi with vertical tabs is more stable than Firefox with TST, so I won't switch any time soon.

Re: Why I use Firefox

#134
post #78

Sometimes I wonder where Firefox might be today if, in the last 10 years, it had competent leadership singularly focused on delivering the absolute best browser in existence.

Oh look, it's my least favorite HN trope. Comment A) "Screw Mozilla, all their funding comes from their Google Search deal, they're just Google in a mask" Comment B) "Screw Mozilla, they waste all this money on side projects (that would provide non-Google revenue streams) when they should be spending all of their effort on Firefox (which is effectively un-monetizable apart from the search deal - and you can bet hard…

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-invest...

Re: Why I use Firefox

#135

browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab = false prevents the entire browser window from closing when the user closes the last tab (I find this behavior annoying) I agree so much, I have no idea why that would be default (and why this setting wouldn't be in preferences)

What an insight into other people's workflow. I literally can't remember the last time I closed the last tab, it must have been years ago.

I just build up tab groups in windows and occasionally declare bankruptcy on the whole thing and close all of it. So technically that counts as closing the last tab? But it's a housekeeping operation I do maybe four times a year, and usually I'm rebooting the computer so closing the browser is also fine by me. I kill entire groups when I'm done with them but there's always a couple windows which just accrete tabs endlessly, like the one with Twitter pinned.

Re: Why I use Firefox

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One can self-host the sync server. I do this and it works great across Android and a Linux desktop, including live showing which tabs are open.

What does the storage layer (database) contain? Clear-text, usable data, or encrypted randomness?

Great question! I'd never actually checked, but opening up the SQLite database, it looks encrypted. I see a table `batch_upload_items` full of ciphertexts.

I'm running the old Python sync server for the time being.

Re: Why I use Firefox

#138

> xn--ime-zza.eu > šime.eu Looks like HN needs Punycode support [1] when it displays the domain name after the article title. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode

> when it displays the domain name

That is the domain name.

I'm glad that Hacker News, the site for hackers, displays the domain name, and not the rendered display version of the domain name. Other places can and should do it differently, it's the right choice here.

Re: Why I use Firefox

#139

Nobody uses Brave?? I've nearly completely switched to Brave - I still use Firefox occasionally but Edge is my second most used Browser. I haven't used Chrome for over 5 years.

Brave is based on Chromium which contributes to the browser engine monopoly.

Re: Why I use Firefox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh look, it's my least favorite HN trope. Comment A) "Screw Mozilla, all their funding comes from their Google Search deal, they're just Google in a mask" Comment B) "Screw Mozilla, they waste all this money on side projects (that would provide diversification and non-Google revenue streams) when they should be spending all of their effort on Firefox (which is effectively un-monetizable apart from the search deal - a…

no, the criticism of their side projects is NOT that they would provide diversification, it's that they're usually politically motivated feel-good marketing distractions with no chance of ever producing additional revenue except maybe by bringing users to Firefox by convincing them that Mozilla better-aligns with their worldview or whatever except oops all corporate politics are the same so the politically motivated…

> that they're usually politically motivated feel-good marketing distractions

most of them where not

especially if you look at resource distributions

Like tab containers, browser sync, firefox SSO, VR, FirefoxOs, Pocket, the send file thing, relay, VPN, privacy preserving Translation, TTS, reader mode, pdf.js.

Non of them are "politically motivated feel-good marketing distractions" but bets to diversification (which also mostly failed for one reason or another) (and yes Pocket contains political motivated nonsens in it's recommendation system, but by itself isn't a politically motivated features, but a feature I would want to see more of deeper integrated into FF, just REALLY without the recommendation system and a somehow more natural part-of-FF felling UI/UX).

I mean sure that color theme nonsense was politically motivated feel-good nonsense. But using that as point to get hung up on is exactly what the OP comment meant, people tend to be very selective about remembering things so that they fit their narrative.

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