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Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

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Re: Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

#121
The Veritasium youtube channel has a few interesting videos related to this topic:

This one is on IQ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkKPsLxgpuY Pay attention to the stats on how IQ correlates to success (near the end).

This one is about becoming an expert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eW6Eagr9XA

This one is about someone who just worked harder than everyone else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF8d72mA41M

Re: Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

#122
post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YEah, pre-caching is very much what I do. If you combine it with empathy skills: "What motivates this person", "What are their goals", "what are their interests/specialities" then you can work out a list of stock answers before hand, and alter them to suit the situation later on. You still need to listen, as there is a non trivial risk of your mental model being wrong.

I loathe talking to people who rehearse the conversation ahead of time. They invariably don’t respond to what I actually said but rather change what I said to line up with what they practiced in the mirror. Or they say some version of “I expected you to say foo, to which I would have responded bar”. Cool story, but totally irrelevant. If you don’t have an answer at the time just say so and follow up later. Waiting fo…

“Waiting for your turn to talk is disrespectful and painful to watch.”

I’m not following… surely you don’t mean interrupt the person speaking?

Re: Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

#123
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This is something that's easy to have an opinion on so you're going to get buried. I'll do my best to make a high-signal comment here, but it will be drowned by all the other replies, which also likely touch on these points. First, "slow-thinking" is really just a different way of expressing your thinking and you should begin by leaning into it rather than leaning away. Take time, allow yourself to pause to collect y…

> Finally, do your best to avoid situations where a "quick decision" is needed; this is good advice even for "quick thinkers". Fast decisions are often poor ones - the counterpoint to that is dragging something out over many weeks or across many meetings - but putting yourself in a situation where the unknowns become knowns or the scope of the landscape and weight of the decision can be properly assessed is important. What's better is that you will likely be able to have a better paper trail for this.

If you have to make a 'quick decision', one of the pieces of advice I've heard is to try to make the smallest possible good decision that will move the ball forward. Often getting started is enough to provide more information needed to make a better long term decision, but making the best possible, smallest decision will rarely get you into trouble.

Re: Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

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"buys you about 5 seconds of time to think." Steve Jobs had that mastered, like in this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeqPrUmVz-o

If anything, that clip proves the inverse. Jobs didn’t blurt out meaningless words to buy himself time to think, he stopped in silence to gather his thoughts and respond.

I was referring to the part where he starts out with you know you can please some of the people, some of the time. You’re right though he has a solid pause as well.

Re: Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

#125
I would not say fast is better than slow when it comes to thinking. It's not something to compensate for.

It's like with breaking news. Do you want to be first, or correct? The two are usually at odds, and serve different purposes.

The quickest wits do improv comedy, and what makes improv funny is the mistakes that turn into happy accidents, usually precipitated by speed.

There is great strength, confidence, and accuracy that can come from deliberately slowing down. Your words have more meaning.

Re: Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

#127
post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YEah, pre-caching is very much what I do. If you combine it with empathy skills: "What motivates this person", "What are their goals", "what are their interests/specialities" then you can work out a list of stock answers before hand, and alter them to suit the situation later on. You still need to listen, as there is a non trivial risk of your mental model being wrong.

I loathe talking to people who rehearse the conversation ahead of time. They invariably don’t respond to what I actually said but rather change what I said to line up with what they practiced in the mirror. Or they say some version of “I expected you to say foo, to which I would have responded bar”. Cool story, but totally irrelevant. If you don’t have an answer at the time just say so and follow up later. Waiting fo…

Yeah, this is where empathy comes in. You need to read the person/people.

I should have been more clear, its more of a template, than a stock answer. Having a cache of information is not the same as "not listening". You still need to listen and respond to the subject at hand.

For example, you are having a meeting about door handles. You know there is a problem about the placing, but also one person is keen on changing the material because they like brass more. However brass is more expensive, so the team needs to agree a threshold at which it becomes practical to change to brass.

Now, if you had fresh in your cache a list of reasons why brass might be useful, and why its not, you can be prepared to counter or boost "that one brass Guy"'s point of view.

You don't go in and say "brass is shit yo" the subject might not come up.

Re: Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

#128
It depends on the context, I guess. I can think of two scenarios where I've encountered this:

First, I'm in a scenario where I'm bombarded with new information and asked to provide analysis, or I'm presented with a new problem and asked for a solution. When people ask questions about complex topics, they probably don't expect full, well organized answers immediately. Likely, they expect a conversation. Work the problem with them, just like you would alone, asking questions as necessary. Supplement your working memory by writing things down as you discuss them. People are happy to sit in silence for a minute while you work a problem or make notes, so don't be afraid of silence. This is simply how complex work is done.

Second, sometimes you're asked a question where you have all the information to answer it, but you need a minute to gather your thoughts before answering. In such a case, one can be tempted to say "I'll get back to you". A better approach, if you're certain that you can answer the question with a little more time, is to simply talk through your analysis. Your boss asks "What would happen if we did X instead of Y". You need a minute, but he's sitting there, waiting! That's fine, just talk it out! Say, "Hmm. I hadn't considered that. My first thought is Z, but there are a few things to consider. First...". Make notes as you go, if you're still talking about thing A and thing B pops into your head, make a quick note to remind yourself to return to it.

A great way to improve on this is to watch other people in meetings. Everyone gets put on the spot. You can learn a lot from seeing how other people handle it.

Re: Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

#129
So, here's what I've found works for me. Picture this: I'm in a meeting, and suddenly I'm put on the spot to make a decision. My mind goes blank, and I start feeling like I've lost half my IQ points. It's frustrating, to say the least.

But then I realized something. Just like how martial artists rehearse their moves over and over again until it becomes second nature, I started rehearsing scenarios in my head. For instance, before a big presentation, I'd run through possible questions or objections I might face. It's like mentally preparing myself for battle, but without the black belt.

By recognizing when I'm slipping into slow-thinking mode, I can catch myself before I spiral into panic mode. It's all about staying cool, calm, and collected, even when the pressure's on.

Breaking tasks down has been a lifesaver too. Instead of tackling a decision head-on, I break it into bite-sized chunks. It's like eating a massive burger one bite at a time. Much more manageable, right?

Plus, I'm not afraid to lean on tools and resources. Whether it's jotting down notes or consulting with experts, these little helpers give me the confidence to tackle even the toughest decisions.

And hey, slow thinking doesn't mean I'm not sharp. I'm all about continuous learning and improvement. Whether it's doing brain teasers or engaging in a lively debate, I'm constantly flexing those mental muscles.

With a bit of rehearsal, mindfulness, and a trusty toolkit, you'll be navigating those fast-paced situations like a pro in no time.

Re: Ask HN: Slow thinkers, how do you compensate for your lack of quick-wittedness?

#130
post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loathe talking to people who rehearse the conversation ahead of time. They invariably don’t respond to what I actually said but rather change what I said to line up with what they practiced in the mirror. Or they say some version of “I expected you to say foo, to which I would have responded bar”. Cool story, but totally irrelevant. If you don’t have an answer at the time just say so and follow up later. Waiting fo…

“Waiting for your turn to talk is disrespectful and painful to watch.” I’m not following… surely you don’t mean interrupt the person speaking?

Citizen asks a question, "Why are rents increasing so rapidly?"

Politician sticks to his prepared talking points and riffs for fifteen minutes about something else.

Citizen feels disrespected.

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