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European summer weather linked to North Atlantic freshwater anomalies

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Re: European summer weather linked to North Atlantic freshwater anomalies

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Summary: there have been warmer summers in Europe lately, much warmer in Northern Europe and Iceland. That seems to explain additional ice melt.

Nothing surprising, but nice detailed wind patterns and one more brick in our understanding of climate change.

Re: European summer weather linked to North Atlantic freshwater anomalies

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Summary:

More ice melt => More fresh water in the Atlantic => cold surface anomalies in winter => sub-polar winter storms => heatwaves in Europe in summer

Mostly not predicted as models do not have fine enough grid resolution to show the movement of freshwater into the Atlantic, which happens via "narrow" channels.

Re: European summer weather linked to North Atlantic freshwater anomalies

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So.. as an individual living in the northen part of Europe, can I expect a nice summer then?

That depends on your definition of "nice". I'd prefer not to break 40C myself. The buildings here are absolute crap for dealing with heat too (eaves? shade? airflow? Who the hell needs that?)

Re: European summer weather linked to North Atlantic freshwater anomalies

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So.. as an individual living in the northen part of Europe, can I expect a nice summer then?

Here in Berlin I’d much rather the traditional 25c summers over the 35c+ summer of ’22 (fortunately ’23 summer was relatively mild and rainy). I do appreciate the mild winters tho!

Re: European summer weather linked to North Atlantic freshwater anomalies

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So.. as an individual living in the northen part of Europe, can I expect a nice summer then?

That depends on your definition of "nice". I'd prefer not to break 40C myself. The buildings here are absolute crap for dealing with heat too (eaves? shade? airflow? Who the hell needs that?)

We've been breaking 40 C numerous times these past two months... look for better buildings if you can.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-01-25/making-your-h...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-15/home-design-changing-...

Re: European summer weather linked to North Atlantic freshwater anomalies

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That depends on your definition of "nice". I'd prefer not to break 40C myself. The buildings here are absolute crap for dealing with heat too (eaves? shade? airflow? Who the hell needs that?)

We've been breaking 40 C numerous times these past two months... look for better buildings if you can. https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-01-25/making-your-h... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-15/home-design-changing-...

Buildings in northern Europe are just not built for ventilation, AC and dealing with heat. It’s not a matter of looking, that’s just not how people build here (just like people in Israel don’t build building that handle cold weather well).

Re: European summer weather linked to North Atlantic freshwater anomalies

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post #6

So.. as an individual living in the northen part of Europe, can I expect a nice summer then?

Here in Berlin I’d much rather the traditional 25c summers over the 35c+ summer of ’22 (fortunately ’23 summer was relatively mild and rainy). I do appreciate the mild winters tho!

There could still be a lot of improvement in both summers and winters in more north of Europe. And hopefully we could nuke something in some way that would balance out the sun so that summers wouldn't be constant light and winters completely dark. It is just depressing. It is unclear what our ancestors were thinking moving here. Probably forced.
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