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Re: Serverless Horrors

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Post by victorbjorklund »

throwawayyy9237 wrote: post #39

Perhaps I'm overreacting, but I had my personal site on Netlify and decided to move it. I don't need anything more than a dumping ground for HTML, and Netlify was "good enough" (I wasn't aware that this issue existed) What brought it closer to home was the characteristics of the recently affect site (same number of daily visits, not popular (a bit niche), etc) where similar to mine. Moving is easy enough, mostly requ…

Cloudflare pages has unlimited free bandwidth so you dont need a limit because traffic is free.

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#42

Post by cpursley »

bArray wrote: post #38

> The ddos attack was focused on a file on my site. Yes it’s partly my fault to put a 3.44MB size sound file on my site rather than using a third-party platform like SoundCloud. But still this doesn’t invalidate the point of having protection against such attacks, and limit the spending. This is extremely sad. It's like we are taking steps backward. A 3.44MB should not be an issue and if it is, the answer should not…

VPSs being “easy to manage” is a strong option full of assumptions.

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Post by catlifeonmars »

andrasbacsai wrote: post #22
merelysounds wrote: post #19

A kill switch seems a practical and trivial solution. E.g. something toggled when a monthly bill exceeds a configurable amount. I’m guessing many hobby users would set that to $100, end of story. I don’t understand why it’s so unpopular to offer that. I’d imagine the providers would benefit too in the long run.

It would be practical for the user, but not for the company. Why does this not exist after years (more than a decade since EC2) of cloud computing? Because it is not good for the VC investors.

AWS Lambda has had this knob for quite a few years, it’s called “provisioned capacity”, and it defines an upper bound to function concurrency.

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#44

Post by pjc50 »

bArray wrote: post #38

> The ddos attack was focused on a file on my site. Yes it’s partly my fault to put a 3.44MB size sound file on my site rather than using a third-party platform like SoundCloud. But still this doesn’t invalidate the point of having protection against such attacks, and limit the spending. This is extremely sad. It's like we are taking steps backward. A 3.44MB should not be an issue and if it is, the answer should not…

>> The ddos attack was focused on a file on my site. Yes it’s partly my fault to put a 3.44MB size sound file on my site rather than using a third-party platform like SoundCloud.

And people wonder why there's only half a dozen websites any more and the "long tail" has vanished. You can post 3.44MB of audio to Facebook or Twitter and know that you'll never be billed for it.

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#45

Post by Sammi »

tutfbhuf wrote: post #31
albert180 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No Colo charges the same insane prices for Traffic as Cloud Providers. Hetzner charges 1€/TB over 20TB for their 10GbE Servers

Yup, this is exactly my point. It's not the serverless architecture, something you set up on Hetzner yourself with OpenFaaS ( https://github.com/openfaas/faas ), that is to blame here but the insane pricing scheme for traffic.

... which you generally get with serverless offers.

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Post by ies7 »

cpursley wrote: post #42
bArray wrote: post #38

> The ddos attack was focused on a file on my site. Yes it’s partly my fault to put a 3.44MB size sound file on my site rather than using a third-party platform like SoundCloud. But still this doesn’t invalidate the point of having protection against such attacks, and limit the spending. This is extremely sad. It's like we are taking steps backward. A 3.44MB should not be an issue and if it is, the answer should not…

VPSs being “easy to manage” is a strong option full of assumptions.

I remember a comment from this site. Something like: we must study how Amazon and other big cloud's marketing work so great to make this generation developers think that vps or selfhosting are hard.

IMO vps was easy before and even easier now to manage.

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#47

Post by Havoc »

This feels misnamed.

It’s not really the serverless part that is the problem but rather inability to limit it

eg cloudflare has serverless stuff that you can hard limit

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#48

Post by Filligree »

aetherspawn wrote: post #40
throwawayyy9237 wrote: post #39

Perhaps I'm overreacting, but I had my personal site on Netlify and decided to move it. I don't need anything more than a dumping ground for HTML, and Netlify was "good enough" (I wasn't aware that this issue existed) What brought it closer to home was the characteristics of the recently affect site (same number of daily visits, not popular (a bit niche), etc) where similar to mine. Moving is easy enough, mostly requ…

Cloudflare has DDOS protection which you can set to basically paranoid and once a DDOS starts then everyone will get a captcha. This limits your spend quite effectively.

And also stop me accessing the site entirely. I don't know why, but every site with CF DDoS protection set to paranoid gives me infinite captchas that I can never pass.

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#50

Post by tjoff »

tutfbhuf wrote: post #31
albert180 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No Colo charges the same insane prices for Traffic as Cloud Providers. Hetzner charges 1€/TB over 20TB for their 10GbE Servers

Yup, this is exactly my point. It's not the serverless architecture, something you set up on Hetzner yourself with OpenFaaS ( https://github.com/openfaas/faas ), that is to blame here but the insane pricing scheme for traffic.

The whole point of serverless is to trick people into insane pricing.
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