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Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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post #53

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The US doesn't need reasons to invade Yemen. In fact, the weak media coverage makes me suspect that they don't want to escalate by not making a big deal out of it.

Who said Yemen? The prize for the neocons is Iran.

They need less reasons for Iran; they already have a truck load of casus belli. The reason they want to avoid a larger conflict with Iran is because a land mission is impossible. They already got kicked out of Afghanistan/Iraq by Iranian proxies.

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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post #47

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Who is "they"? Cite your sources and show your work.

From the article, "they" obviously implies the Houthis

If you want to understand why something happened, you'll need to look a lot deeper than that. Asking why the Houthis would cut a cable is accepting the assumption that they did.

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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What did they hope to accomplish by making the world slightly worse?

Well, the world (specifically, the USA and Britain) is currently dropping bombs on "them". Surely you would expect that "they" might be a bit upset about "their" people getting blown to pieces and may wish to return the favor somehow?

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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In neal stephensons 1996 classic wired article Mother Earth Mother Board theres a bit in there about why cables are not attacked. "There is also the obvious threat of sabotage by a hostile government, but, surprisingly, this almost never happens. When cypherpunk Doug Barnes was researching his Caribbean project, he spent some time looking into this, because it was exactly the kind of threat he was worried about in th…

There are a couple of differences: 1. the sheer number of cables today makes an individual - or even several - cuts far less dramatic. 2. there's likely still a perceived difference between a nation-state being seen to openly take responsibility for cutting cables, and terrorist groups doing so. It's still an interesting chang (and everyone should read Mother Earth Mother Board), and you're probably still right it wi…

It already happens a lot. The cables around Matsu keep getting mysteriously cut definitely not by China[0], and there's nothing anybody can really do due to plausible deniability.

I think the bombing of the Nord Stream pipeline has shown that even when a blatant act of sabotage occurs under the sea, as long as nobody claims responsibility, the debate will rage on for years about who it might have been. I'm not sure if we can really differentiate between state actors and terrorists any more when it comes to this kind of operation. Perhaps it's more a question of did anyone take responsibility, or did no one?

[0] https://apnews.com/article/matsu-taiwan-internet-cables-cut-...

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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post #46

In neal stephensons 1996 classic wired article Mother Earth Mother Board theres a bit in there about why cables are not attacked. "There is also the obvious threat of sabotage by a hostile government, but, surprisingly, this almost never happens. When cypherpunk Doug Barnes was researching his Caribbean project, he spent some time looking into this, because it was exactly the kind of threat he was worried about in th…

It’s not like a nuclear war because it’s easy to blame it on a dragging ship Anker or whatever.

That's gotta be a might large battery.

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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In neal stephensons 1996 classic wired article Mother Earth Mother Board theres a bit in there about why cables are not attacked. "There is also the obvious threat of sabotage by a hostile government, but, surprisingly, this almost never happens. When cypherpunk Doug Barnes was researching his Caribbean project, he spent some time looking into this, because it was exactly the kind of threat he was worried about in th…

Wouldn’t it be almost impossible to assign blame? The ocean is big and submarines are not easy to find. Maybe if you had other evidence like SIGINT?

Helpfully, the Houthis threatened to do this before it happened. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68231945

Perhaps not quite enough for a conviction in a court of law, but definitely a balance of probabilities.

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article, "they" obviously implies the Houthis

If you want to understand why something happened, you'll need to look a lot deeper than that. Asking why the Houthis would cut a cable is accepting the assumption that they did.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68231945 (note date)

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US doesn't need reasons to invade Yemen. In fact, the weak media coverage makes me suspect that they don't want to escalate by not making a big deal out of it.

Who said Yemen? The prize for the neocons is Iran.

The neocons are not currently in power, and the Republicans have been taken over by a much weirder faction.
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