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Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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I think this might be the cleanest-looking, fastest news site I've ever seen. It's Israeli obviously, but shame that despite the name implying it might have a wider outlook it does seem to be Israel/Israeli business focussed.

It loads fast but the article is still only 1/4 of the page.

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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In neal stephensons 1996 classic wired article Mother Earth Mother Board theres a bit in there about why cables are not attacked. "There is also the obvious threat of sabotage by a hostile government, but, surprisingly, this almost never happens. When cypherpunk Doug Barnes was researching his Caribbean project, he spent some time looking into this, because it was exactly the kind of threat he was worried about in th…

There are a couple of differences:

1. the sheer number of cables today makes an individual - or even several - cuts far less dramatic.

2. there's likely still a perceived difference between a nation-state being seen to openly take responsibility for cutting cables, and terrorist groups doing so.

It's still an interesting chang (and everyone should read Mother Earth Mother Board), and you're probably still right it will happen more often, and things could escalate very quickly.

3 is a nuisance, but the Red Sea route cuts thousands of miles and according latency between Europe and South Asia - Africa is big and both the African and direct Eastbound overland routes have all kinds of "challenges". If more of them are cut, expect a drastic escalation.

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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In neal stephensons 1996 classic wired article Mother Earth Mother Board theres a bit in there about why cables are not attacked. "There is also the obvious threat of sabotage by a hostile government, but, surprisingly, this almost never happens. When cypherpunk Doug Barnes was researching his Caribbean project, he spent some time looking into this, because it was exactly the kind of threat he was worried about in th…

Wouldn’t it be almost impossible to assign blame? The ocean is big and submarines are not easy to find. Maybe if you had other evidence like SIGINT?

People will assign blame whether or not they have proof. E.g. the threshold for blaming the Houthi's like the article does is near zero since "everyone" already see them as a threat in the area, so assigning blame or not is down to how much force Western powers will use, not whether or not they use it.

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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In neal stephensons 1996 classic wired article Mother Earth Mother Board theres a bit in there about why cables are not attacked. "There is also the obvious threat of sabotage by a hostile government, but, surprisingly, this almost never happens. When cypherpunk Doug Barnes was researching his Caribbean project, he spent some time looking into this, because it was exactly the kind of threat he was worried about in th…

Wouldn’t it be almost impossible to assign blame? The ocean is big and submarines are not easy to find. Maybe if you had other evidence like SIGINT?

All it takes is a ship "forgetting" to raise the anchor and running it over the cable, snapping it.

Might have happened outside Finland last year [1].

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/estonia-says-chinese-sh...

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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In neal stephensons 1996 classic wired article Mother Earth Mother Board theres a bit in there about why cables are not attacked. "There is also the obvious threat of sabotage by a hostile government, but, surprisingly, this almost never happens. When cypherpunk Doug Barnes was researching his Caribbean project, he spent some time looking into this, because it was exactly the kind of threat he was worried about in th…

It’s not like a nuclear war because it’s easy to blame it on a dragging ship Anker or whatever.

Re: Submarine cables linking Africa-Asia-Europe severed

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In neal stephensons 1996 classic wired article Mother Earth Mother Board theres a bit in there about why cables are not attacked. "There is also the obvious threat of sabotage by a hostile government, but, surprisingly, this almost never happens. When cypherpunk Doug Barnes was researching his Caribbean project, he spent some time looking into this, because it was exactly the kind of threat he was worried about in th…

Wouldn’t it be almost impossible to assign blame? The ocean is big and submarines are not easy to find. Maybe if you had other evidence like SIGINT?

> Wouldn’t it be almost impossible to assign blame?

That didn't stop governments trying with nordstream.

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