Well, if Tyler Perry, the greatest technology prognosticator of our time, thinks Sora will supplant human filmmaking, it must be so.
He's a very, very successful film producer who rose through the industry against significant odds. Your sarcasm is misplaced.
Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora
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#192Anyone saying: - it’s only short videos - it’s not fully consistent - it is hard to direct to get what you want …is looking at where it is now, and failing to consider where it will be in literally a year or two. Five years from now parents will be mashing up Winnie the Pooh and Avatar, starring their children, in immersive 3D, for the Apple Vision Pro 4 or the Quest 7. Tyler Perry is making a wise choice.
>Five years from now parents will be mashing up Winnie the Pooh and Avatar, starring their children, in immersive 3D, for the Apple Vision Pro 4 or the Quest 7. five years MAYBE expert creators will be able to do this in a satisfactory way after a lot of polish in editing out the edges and hundreds to thousands of prompts. And even then we're talking more about 5-10 minute short, not a feature length film. five years…
Five years ago, there was nothing in existence that could respond well to a prompt like "Write a short story about my six-year-old daughter Emily traveling undersea to rescue her favorite sea horse, who's been kidnapped by the Shrimp King. Make her have several adventures along the way, engaging in side quests and making friends who ultimately help her succeed in her quest"
Today ChatGPT responds to the above with no difficulty, and part of the reason is that it has been trained not just to output reasonable responses, but aesthetically pleasing ones.
There is every reason to believe that video output will be more responsive five years from now than text is right now. Sure, it's possible it will be a little stilted, or a little generic, but it's possible it won't be.
Obviously we're both speculating, but I find it hard to believe that one minute today won't turn into hour-length in five years.
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>Five years from now parents will be mashing up Winnie the Pooh and Avatar, starring their children, in immersive 3D, for the Apple Vision Pro 4 or the Quest 7. five years MAYBE expert creators will be able to do this in a satisfactory way after a lot of polish in editing out the edges and hundreds to thousands of prompts. And even then we're talking more about 5-10 minute short, not a feature length film. five years…
I really don't know how to reply to this. Five years ago, there was nothing in existence that could respond well to a prompt like "Write a short story about my six-year-old daughter Emily traveling undersea to rescue her favorite sea horse, who's been kidnapped by the Shrimp King. Make her have several adventures along the way, engaging in side quests and making friends who ultimately help her succeed in her quest" T…
1. Text has come car, but I don't think anything other than blogspam sites have heavily leveraged AI as a commercial product. There's a huge gulf of difference between "this looks okay enough that the common user won't question it" and "this is helping professionals make money for products consumers the self seek out". AI is 90% of the way there, and it has another 90% to go, just like any human.
2. With all that noted, Video is a lot more computationally expensive than text generation. Which is multiple magnitudes of more information to edit/refine. It will only magnify the problem since the common user is a lot better at recognizing defects in visuals than in text (where native speakers famously don't process every word while reading).
I'm not saying that this won't massively improve efficiency. But I think we both will agree that this tech won't lead to a large studio making content in months so much as letting a very lean team make content in 3-5 years for much less money when they lay off 95% of the staff.
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we need a universal basic income and progressive tax rates urgently if we want to avoid the world turning into a Gotham City kind of inequal shitshow.
> we need a universal basic income and progressive tax rates urgently if we want to avoid the world turning into a Gotham City kind of inequal shitshow. Not really. IMHO the idea of universal basic income is not an actual solution, it's a soporific to passivate people until all their power is drained from them. What we really need is a Butlerian Jihad, to make technology and technologists subordinate to society, inst…
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> We do need some protections in place. i find impossible to believe that people that are currently working in the music/film industries will not take advantage of these new technologies (see designers that went from pen and paper to software). i think a decent analogy is music. software has completely taken over music production. but musicians are still making great music, analogue or otherwise. these new technologi…
And given the - the behavior of big tech in the last 10-15 years minimum - The arguably decrease of quality of movies as is from corporate ignoring artists who already had to protest just to prevent themselves from being degraded from writers to AI prompt editors. - history of artists in film since... forever I'm honestly very pessimistic. In theory, this means less artists in a VFX studio can charge the same amount…
when was "making music" a money maker? or for that matter, when was creating any art form a money maker? i think making money out of art is an anomaly, not a rule. and i think that's good, as money corrupts art.
the problem as i see it is that lots of us live in a capitalist world. and in that case it's very hard to hold my beliefs and still lead a fulfilling life.
i don't have the answer to this issue. but i think there was a similar issue a few decades ago, when making money from art was considered "selling out".
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And given the - the behavior of big tech in the last 10-15 years minimum - The arguably decrease of quality of movies as is from corporate ignoring artists who already had to protest just to prevent themselves from being degraded from writers to AI prompt editors. - history of artists in film since... forever I'm honestly very pessimistic. In theory, this means less artists in a VFX studio can charge the same amount…
> No one makes money making music anymore. when was "making music" a money maker? or for that matter, when was creating any art form a money maker? i think making money out of art is an anomaly, not a rule. and i think that's good, as money corrupts art. the problem as i see it is that lots of us live in a capitalist world. and in that case it's very hard to hold my beliefs and still lead a fulfilling life. i don't h…
>i think making money out of art is an anomaly, not a rule. and i think that's good, as money corrupts art.
Until we live in a post scarcity society, or until the arts is some random eccentric billionaire hobby, most art will be trading a craft for compensation to survive. That isn't a recent nor local phenomenon. The arts made from love that somehow succeeds only on its own merits has always been the minority. As you said, it's hard to hold your beliefs (I.e. Make exactly what you want) and still pay the bills. There isn't enough time in the day, or maybe there is now but corporate demands more of our time than ever despite thst.