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Firsty.app – free 300kbit/s eSIM for US/EU

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This seems pretty cool, so it's free slow cell service in exchange for watching a video ad every hour, with optional prepaid plans for higher speeds/no ads. It does seem that your cellular is only active for an hour after you last watch an ad, which is unfortunate if you want to receive notifications throughout the day.

I wonder how this works, if your cellular gets deactivated, how do you inform the service that you've watched the ad? Particularly if all you have is an app with no access to low-level system APIs like USSD, texting etc. Is it just disabling your access except to a particular IP range and then enabling it back on receiving a HTTP request? Can routing in Telcos even work like that? Or is it DNS perhaps? That would see…

As a citizen of a country where prepaid access is the norm, it's just DNS (mis)redirection. People call it "captive portal".

When your quota runs out everything you access resolves to the same address, which is an internal web site where you can buy more data.

And yes, it does not work if you use a custom DNS such as Cloudflare or Google Public DNS, or if you try to reach a HTTPS page. But they don't care, as it's a minority that does this. Android already has support for captive portals, and shows a notification when it detects one.

Re: Firsty.app – free 300kbit/s eSIM for US/EU

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It does say, “Pay a fair local rate.” So, I'm going to assume it is €1,95/day + local rate (not roaming rate).

Per day sounds attractive if you’re somewhere for 3 days and don’t want to pay for a month

A cheap 30day SIM with 2GB pf data can be had for £5-7 in the UK, so it sounds pretty terrible to me.

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The eSIM offered works in multiple countries. The eBay listing is limited to the US. This is a similar thing that is comparable to your eBay link, but also doesn't feature roaming. 100MB a month for 5 years, for £16 one off: https://www.rwgmobile.wales/webshop/buy-forget/5-year-sim-da...

The cohort Venn diagram is world travelers who can’t afford a global service? People who can pay for a flight but would rather watch an ad than pay for service? And the value of that ad inventory of people unwilling to pay is? I’m all for the effort, and I am fond of business models that more directly convey the revenue from ads to customers, but I have some concerns for this business. It all could fade pretty quickl…

> The cohort Venn diagram is world travelers who can’t afford a global service? People who can pay for a flight but would rather watch an ad than pay for service?

At this point I laughed, as I don't have global service, yet have flown round the world in the last fortnight.

> And the value of that ad inventory of people unwilling to pay is?

Yeah, I'm never going to click on your ads. Don't build a business model on me!

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that's fine. small abuse isn't worth the cost to enforce. abuse at scale, however...

Around 2000 there was a dial-up service called Juno. It took about 15% of your screen to show a rotating banner ad and had some time limit for use. As far as I recall every restriction was implemented in the client. As such there was a really easy workaround to connect directly without using their software and bypass every restriction. A guy I know used that workaround and at some point got a letter in the mail from…

Juno was great. There was another company similar to Juno with the same idea which I think started with an "N" if I remember correctly.

My dialup of choice was MetConnect. It was entirely free and fast no ads just dial in and use the Internet.

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For travelers’ eSIM (paid), many people whom I asked, have recommended Airalo - https://www.airalo.com I have no affiliation.

I recently traveled to Europe and used an Orange France travel eSIM. No complaints. Might be a bit expensive though but then I got more data than I ever needed (12 GB is their next plan up from 1 GB).

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I've had good luck with Keepgo (no affiliation) for low-cost backup eSIMs. Once you add the initial data, it's good "forever" as long as you add something to it once every year. I bought 10GB just over a year ago to have a backup on a different network than my primary plan. Recently added $3 to keep it alive for another year.

https://www.keepgo.com/collections/prepaid-esim-data-bundles

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Around 2000 there was a dial-up service called Juno. It took about 15% of your screen to show a rotating banner ad and had some time limit for use. As far as I recall every restriction was implemented in the client. As such there was a really easy workaround to connect directly without using their software and bypass every restriction. A guy I know used that workaround and at some point got a letter in the mail from…

Juno was great. There was another company similar to Juno with the same idea which I think started with an "N" if I remember correctly. My dialup of choice was MetConnect. It was entirely free and fast no ads just dial in and use the Internet.

NetZero, who eventually bought Juno after they went under in the dot-com bubble.
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