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I feel like the best mobile plan insofar for traveling has been Google Fi: $10/GB anywhere in the world, allows you to pause service and pay nothing, works both as a physical and eSIM card.

The downside: only available for purchase in the US.

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Can you explain how your paid tier works? Is it 1.95€ a day unlimited worldwide, or are there charges on top of that?

I'm not affiliated, just randomly stumbled upon it. In the app, it seems to scale between 1 day - 3.50 Euro 30 days - 59.40 Euro (1.98/day) The pricing doesn't seem great, but also not terrible. So it could work out for them, due to convenience.

Wonder how this differs from something like Airalo or bnesim then, aside from the free tier.

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People here seem to quickly react by recommending their favorite travel eSIM provider. I'd propose what I find to be a bit more useful, a website that compares a bunch of different travel eSIM providers: https://esimdb.com

No affiliation from my side. I find it nice to know I always have many options.

Re: Firsty.app – free 300kbit/s eSIM for US/EU

#54

This seems pretty cool, so it's free slow cell service in exchange for watching a video ad every hour, with optional prepaid plans for higher speeds/no ads. It does seem that your cellular is only active for an hour after you last watch an ad, which is unfortunate if you want to receive notifications throughout the day.

I wonder how this works, if your cellular gets deactivated, how do you inform the service that you've watched the ad? Particularly if all you have is an app with no access to low-level system APIs like USSD, texting etc.

Is it just disabling your access except to a particular IP range and then enabling it back on receiving a HTTP request? Can routing in Telcos even work like that? Or is it DNS perhaps? That would seem to be the easiest layer to implement this on.

I'd really like a technical explanation here.

Re: Firsty.app – free 300kbit/s eSIM for US/EU

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I wish the prices were even remotely competitive, every time I check and compare, it's always _significantly cheaper_ to just get a SIM locally. I just checked Morocco, and it's $31.50 for 5GB. I think I paid 7$ for 20GB or something. Then again, I have a phone with a regular SIM card. Maybe the prices are comparable if you have a new iPhone with no regular SIM slot and are forced to use an eSIM. In my mind, eSims sh…

Isn't that always inherently true? With travel SIMs, what you're buying is convenience. Not to mention, some countries have annoying KYC processes for getting SIM cards/service. Presumably this bypasses that.

If I'm buying a SIM, there's a physical cost to manufacture the thing. There's no such cost with eSIMs. Also, to sell me a physical SIM, the telecom has to employ somebody to stand there and sell me a SIM. With an eSIM there's a website and it doesn't matter if 1 or 1000 people are buying SIMs at the same time. I would think that eventually the ability to scale would push the costs of eSIM down to be cheaper/the same as regular SIMs, but we aren't there yet.

> With travel SIMs, what you're buying is convenience.

I guess I'm not the target market here. Spending 5 minutes to get a cheaper + better deal is worth it to me then overpaying for limited data to avoid having to talk to somebody.

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that always inherently true? With travel SIMs, what you're buying is convenience. Not to mention, some countries have annoying KYC processes for getting SIM cards/service. Presumably this bypasses that.

If I'm buying a SIM, there's a physical cost to manufacture the thing. There's no such cost with eSIMs. Also, to sell me a physical SIM, the telecom has to employ somebody to stand there and sell me a SIM. With an eSIM there's a website and it doesn't matter if 1 or 1000 people are buying SIMs at the same time. I would think that eventually the ability to scale would push the costs of eSIM down to be cheaper/the same…

But when you need more data and you’re in the middle of nowhere, you can just pay to add a bit more.

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For travelers’ eSIM (paid), many people whom I asked, have recommended Airalo - https://www.airalo.com I have no affiliation.

Airalo is nowhere near competitive anymore. Check http://esimdb.com , which includes airalo, to do a true price comparison.

I have a question.

I had a Google Voice US number for almost 10 years that I lost because I could not do a verification from another US number. I verified with Twilio once as I was able to make their product work and receive a SMS from Google Voice but I couldn't make it work the next time.

I had created that Google Voice number back in the day when those SIP apps were a thing which offered you a second number. (I lived in India back then and still am).

I wonder whether there's an international eSIM that I can have without paying a regular "keeping the SIM alive" fee or paying a really really low free and recharge it whenever I want to actually use the data or SMS or calls when I need it which is usually when I travel?

Does any of these providers a retainer SIM that is kinda "pay as you go but no need to pay just to keep a SIM to receive SMS or so"? I would definitely need receiving of SMS.

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that always inherently true? With travel SIMs, what you're buying is convenience. Not to mention, some countries have annoying KYC processes for getting SIM cards/service. Presumably this bypasses that.

If I'm buying a SIM, there's a physical cost to manufacture the thing. There's no such cost with eSIMs. Also, to sell me a physical SIM, the telecom has to employ somebody to stand there and sell me a SIM. With an eSIM there's a website and it doesn't matter if 1 or 1000 people are buying SIMs at the same time. I would think that eventually the ability to scale would push the costs of eSIM down to be cheaper/the same…

The local provider is, locally, usually a monopoly or near monopoly.

They want to own the whole customer journey, be able to market/upsell other products, etc. That's why they directly sell service at rates far cheaper than they will let roaming providers access.

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