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Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by Paradigma11 »

zeroCalories wrote: post #34

It's amazing to me that Microsoft messed up Windows. All they had to do was not not change things, but they continued to force junk on me that I don't need, take power away from me, and spy on me. Honestly MacOS isn't much better. Linux is still crap software, but we've reached the point where most things can be done on Linux, so good riddance. I hope that more people switch and Linux continues to improve. There's ac…

Nobody wants to pay for an OS any more, so thats the sustainable strategy they are going for.

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Post by pacifika »

rolph wrote: post #168
nickelpro wrote: post #15

This is basically an article by a guy angry that the UI for printers changed and predicting the end of the Windows empire based on that.

On Tuesday, I had a printer issue at a client site and I was going to pull up the “Devices and Printers” panel to manage the drives and printing default settings. In the most recent 22H2 Windows 11 update, they hid it! Using old Control Panel (Start->Run->control) Clicking on this will redirect you to the new settings printer that gives NO options to do any advanced troubleshooting and removes the ability to FIX the…

Press win-x

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by jonathanstrange »

Sayrus wrote: post #219
tux1968 wrote: post #112

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> I hope that more people switch It's reached a point where it no longer really matters. Linux is good enough, usable enough, and supported enough, that getting more users won't change much. It might actually be worse if a lot more users, with a lot of wide-ranging needs and demands, switch to Linux. At least, I am happy with the current state of Linux usability, and no longer care to evangelize the benefits of being…

My own experience doesn't reflect that. I've been using Linux for work for years and tried to switch from Windows to Linux for games. NVIDIA drivers and game support on Linux is not an experience I'd recommend to anyone without experience. On laptop it's awesome, unless you have both an iGPU and dedicated GPU, then switching properly is a pain. WiFi drivers are a hit or miss: some cards are great, some others are not…

Gaming and pro audio plugins are the reasons for me to keep Windows bootable.

However, recently Windows started to take more than 15 minutes for booting (except for sometimes, when it takes only 3 seconds as if to mock me), and none of the 30 suggestions or so I've tried could fix this big. Since the advice in such cases is always to re-install everything (nevermind 100+ audio plugins with proprietary DRM I'd need to re-install), I'm thinking more than twice before booting into Windows these days. I don't have much time for gaming anyway, and will probably just give up my audio plugins at some point.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by k8svet »

pacifika wrote: post #265
bee_rider wrote: post #243

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Most of the Linux ecosystem is not really interested in selling Linux, they are interested in solving their problems using Linux and then sharing. This leaves space open for groups like Valve or Google to create a nice UI on top of Linux and sell that. How can they compete with free? It turns out free is not actually interested in competing with them… I still give it, like, less than 50% chance of occurring, but it w…

I don’t think MS is interested in sharing back its improvements, like a directx integration layer it would have to build.

You mean like the kennel and mesa driver they largely wrote?

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by pacifika »

Fervicus wrote: post #98
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #17

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Accurate as every other week's predicting of Microsoft's impeding doom from users who don't like Windows in the past 30 years. - 1995. wah, wah! Windows 95 sucks, it's so bloated, MS-DOS was so much lighter, this will be the end of Microsoft. - 2001. wah, wah! Windows XP sucks, it's just a bloated Windows 2000 with Fisher Price coloring, this will be the end of Microsoft. .... - 2021. wah, wah! Windows 11 sucks, it's…

I don't think it's the same. I have been a Windows user all my life. Bloat and bad UX changes is one thing, but this is the first time I feel like I am having to actively fight the OS against showing me ads and dark practices like changing user preferences unbeknownst to me.

People have been having that feeling for 20 years as well, just different people with different tolerances.

Look at the feedback on Windows Me, Windows 8, The IE monopoly, breaking web standards, etc etc.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by beretguy »

zeroCalories wrote: post #34

It's amazing to me that Microsoft messed up Windows. All they had to do was not not change things, but they continued to force junk on me that I don't need, take power away from me, and spy on me. Honestly MacOS isn't much better. Linux is still crap software, but we've reached the point where most things can be done on Linux, so good riddance. I hope that more people switch and Linux continues to improve. There's ac…

> Linux is still crap software

[citation needed]

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by pacifika »

k8svet wrote: post #274
pacifika wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think MS is interested in sharing back its improvements, like a directx integration layer it would have to build.

You mean like the kennel and mesa driver they largely wrote?

No I’m talking about the work that affects their power / control over others.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by treprinum »

oDot wrote: post #19
treprinum wrote: post #8

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I can't get Ubuntu working well on my Zephyrus G14 4090. They seem to have dropped the ball...

Always useful to look at the seemingly endless stream of Linux information, the Arch wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ASUS_ROG_Zephyrus_G14_(2022... Also NixOS has a nixos-hardware repository with configurations for some laptops: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware/tree/master/asus/zep... Reasonably legible if you ever programmed anything

I was talking specifically about Ubuntu. ASUS Linux folks recommend Fedora and Arch to have proper kernels and refuse to touch Ubuntu, so the engineering marvel of G14 with 4090 barely works on Ubuntu.

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Post by MrDresden »

Paradigma11 wrote: post #271
zeroCalories wrote: post #34

It's amazing to me that Microsoft messed up Windows. All they had to do was not not change things, but they continued to force junk on me that I don't need, take power away from me, and spy on me. Honestly MacOS isn't much better. Linux is still crap software, but we've reached the point where most things can be done on Linux, so good riddance. I hope that more people switch and Linux continues to improve. There's ac…

Nobody wants to pay for an OS any more, so thats the sustainable strategy they are going for.

OEMs pay for it and pass that cost on to consumers.

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Post by HKH2 »

yodon wrote: post #174
TheLoafOfBread wrote: post #149

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> Make bash, zsh, ... native for Windows Why? There is PowerShell, able to run on Linux and MacOS. And compared to Bash it is actually readable language.

Ironically, power shell is the most consistent cross-platform scripting environment today. No more wrangling osx bsd grep commandline flags not working with linux gnu grep, and vice versa. Powershell just works cross platform. And this from a guy whose daily driver is an M3 MacBook.

You don't have to use grep.
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