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Inside North Korea's Forced Labor Program
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#72Real question; is there any kind of revolutionary force inside NK?
It seems like there should be, but we never hear about it.
Anybody know?
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>all that's broken at the moment in our end-stage capitalist societies That's a weird way to spell "the most prosperous time/space ever, where borderline poor people live like kings 200 years ago, and there are fewer and fewer poor people as time goes on and poverty threshold goes up".
Yes, poor people are better off in absolute terms than 200 years ago. No one is denying this. The question is more that, given how prosperous we are, and how much capital we have at our disposal, why do we still have so many poor people? Why is income inequality so bad?
Spot on. Saying today's poor are better off than before is a distraction from the questions we should be asking:
1) Why are there so many poor?
2) Why are their ranks increasing?
To say something is better than before is not the same as saying it is as good as it could be. And yet no one is trumpeting the latter.
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Could your comment be any more indicative of how self-centered American tech workers are? Bad things happen in other parts of world, regardless of what anyone in America thinks about "RTO".
I don’t really care about the conditions of tech workers since the lion’s share of the industry is just a speculative outlet for finance which produces no ‘technology’ whatsoever. But I’m also beyond believing that the goal of media outlets which shape people’s perceptions is to present objective reality out of the goodness of their hearts.
Assuming your own intentions are to see the truth of course, even if they may be uncomfortable for you. I find most people, especially the well-educated don't. They're much more interested in confirming their own biases.
In that way the clueless "normie" does listens to MSM without any weight is sometimes more reliable to believe in.
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#75Great reporting. It's sad the state of affairs and I need to remind myself that those cheap seafood we get from the supermarket maybe coming from these labors.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, poor people are better off in absolute terms than 200 years ago. No one is denying this. The question is more that, given how prosperous we are, and how much capital we have at our disposal, why do we still have so many poor people? Why is income inequality so bad?
Poverty is the default state. We shouldn’t ask why we have poor people but rather how can more wealth be generated to have fewer poor people. Our system has redefined what it means to be poor. So much that we’ve forgotten that abject poverty is the default state. We dont need less capitalism but rather more and faster.
There's plenty of wealth. The issue is the concentration of wealth at the top.
Since the current system is deeply unfair, I'm not sure why adding additional wealth to the system would make it any more fair. The majority of every extra dollar goes to the ultra rich.
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#77casual reminder for US readers: this is all pretty common fare in US prisons as well. the 13th amendment to the US constitution does not cover prisoners. As such, most are forced to work, given a token salary to keep up appearances, and punished with solitary confinement if they do not comply.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/05/31/how-the-newest...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape_in_the_United_Stat...
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#78casual reminder for US readers: this is all pretty common fare in US prisons as well. the 13th amendment to the US constitution does not cover prisoners. As such, most are forced to work, given a token salary to keep up appearances, and punished with solitary confinement if they do not comply. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/05/31/how-the-newest... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape_in_the_United_Stat.…
I find it perfectly possible to be concerned about some aspects of the US penal system without implying its equivalency to the terror endured under one of the most oppressive political regimes in the world.
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#79casual reminder for US readers: this is all pretty common fare in US prisons as well. the 13th amendment to the US constitution does not cover prisoners. As such, most are forced to work, given a token salary to keep up appearances, and punished with solitary confinement if they do not comply. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/05/31/how-the-newest... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape_in_the_United_Stat.…
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#80Mines in Mongolia also do deals to use North Korean workers. I am unsure if they are foreign owned, but they have foreign management. Source: Met one of them who openly told me about it, about 3-4 years ago.