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Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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Re: Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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> I still cannot manage to use this platform the way plenty of men do so: To earn an adequate living. Uh, what on earth gives you the impression that people are using this niche forum to earn an adequate living? Maybe people use it to find jobs in the sector if they have relevant skills but to make a living from the platform itself...? I mean, how would you even go about doing that?

...what on earth gives you the impression... I have been here nearly fifteen years. I know for a fact that participation here helps line the pockets of some of the men here. I will let others decide if the entire community will, as usual, let someone assert that I am imagining things they know is fact or will for once back me up.

> I know for a fact that participation here helps line the pockets of some of the men here.

This is so vague as to be unusable.

Firstly, I (sadly) have absolutely no doubt as to much of what you said. Offers of cash for sex, flirtations, white knighting.

> trying to establish an earned income via freelance writing and resume work and couldn't do it

HN isn't - as you know - really about soliciting work for yourself, outside a few sanctioned threads a month. There may be random people here and there who might make an ad hoc mention of it with a "reach out to me" message. But if done too much, they get sanctioned and censured. Regardless of gender.

I would not be surprised if you had said you could not earn income from HN as a freelance writer if your name was John Smith. I fail to surmise that it has anything to do with your gender.

But back to your comment, participation here lining the pockets of some of the men:

The biggest way I see for anyone to earn income here is networking. But this place is also very specifically not LinkedIn. There is an acceptance, even encouragement of it as far as it doesn't interfere with the general discourse on posted submissions.

Beyond that, job posts and similar? I can tell you that I have responded to dozens (realistically a couple of hundred) hiring and other posts in my time here. I have reached out to people with ideas, offered assistance and input. And of that, nothing has come. Not one thing.

I'm not saying your experience is wrong: I'm just not seeing evidence to support your conclusion that your gender is what is limiting things here.

Re: Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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Arguing that pedophiles would not be problematic if there was legalisation of sec work is an absurd notion.

they didn’t argue that, they argued that if you’re not able to even talk about a problem you tend to smother it or not give it nuance which can lead to folks trying to kill any consensual sexual stuff, which not only consumes huge resources, but also leads to the situation where everyone is aware of how to skirt the rules meaning it is no longer esoteric knowledge. Same reasoning is often applied to weed… it’s not a…

No, fucking little kids is not in the same ballpark as smoking weed.

Re: Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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See also "Google & Meta function as extensions of the US Intelligence Community."[1][2] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39505122 [2] https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1761567080988676256.html

If they don't police 'misinfo', they're accused of helping russia manipulate the election and helping trump get elected. If they do, they get accused of censoring speech and aiding the CIA/FBI. These peoples arguments don't make much of a point other than, look at this person who previously worked for the government and is now influencing free-speech related decisions at big tech!!!

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1685797053413126145.html

Re: Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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I'm not arguing with you, I just don't understand _how_ this is occurring. Self-promotion of products? I can see that. You aren't promoting any products. Did you try that in the past? Self-promotion of written content or a blog? Yeah a lot of the links here are from URLs I've never seen before, are people actually making money or just blowing their own horn? I'm asking you by what mechanism people make money here, as…

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Re: Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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they didn’t argue that, they argued that if you’re not able to even talk about a problem you tend to smother it or not give it nuance which can lead to folks trying to kill any consensual sexual stuff, which not only consumes huge resources, but also leads to the situation where everyone is aware of how to skirt the rules meaning it is no longer esoteric knowledge. Same reasoning is often applied to weed… it’s not a…

No, fucking little kids is not in the same ballpark as smoking weed.

I think you’re proving the point. They never remotely suggested it was, the context is discussions about sex work not child sexual abuse.

People like you can’t even read a very coherent analogy about sex work without getting emotional.

Re: Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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they didn’t argue that, they argued that if you’re not able to even talk about a problem you tend to smother it or not give it nuance which can lead to folks trying to kill any consensual sexual stuff, which not only consumes huge resources, but also leads to the situation where everyone is aware of how to skirt the rules meaning it is no longer esoteric knowledge. Same reasoning is often applied to weed… it’s not a…

No, fucking little kids is not in the same ballpark as smoking weed.

Excuse you sir, even the least charitable interpretation of what I said (which was an allegory) was not in any way inferring what you imply.

If anything, the allegory would be: consensual sexual images between adults is equivalent to smoking weed.

Re: Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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No, fucking little kids is not in the same ballpark as smoking weed.

Excuse you sir, even the least charitable interpretation of what I said (which was an allegory) was not in any way inferring what you imply. If anything, the allegory would be: consensual sexual images between adults is equivalent to smoking weed.

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Re: Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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No, fucking little kids is not in the same ballpark as smoking weed.

I think you’re proving the point. They never remotely suggested it was, the context is discussions about sex work not child sexual abuse. People like you can’t even read a very coherent analogy about sex work without getting emotional.

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Re: Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitation. They Did It Anyway

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Excuse you sir, even the least charitable interpretation of what I said (which was an allegory) was not in any way inferring what you imply. If anything, the allegory would be: consensual sexual images between adults is equivalent to smoking weed.

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Honestly, I haven't read that playbook.

However, here's an interesting wake-up call: You seem to be exactly the person that the grandparent is talking about.

Perfect is the enemy of good, the best result is nobody fucking children, permitting consenting adults to share nudes can help prevent that. Absolutists cause a worse situation for the most vulnerable among us.

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