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Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by vajrabum »

fifteen1506 wrote: post #2

No-one cares about Power Users once the rest of the populace is on Windows.

Well maybe, but with Windows maybe they shouldn't think about power users but power buyers. And power buyers (i.e. medium to large enterprises) care about security, maintainability, backward compatibility, and supportability and yeah lots of stuff has moved to the cloud but the end user has got to use something to get there.

So, the question is, is this creative destruction or just destruction. Not every change is an innovation even in IT and large vendors have a long history of failing in computing usually because they either got sclerotic or too focused on the organization and promoting the organization and too little focused on the customer.

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Post by littlestymaar »

traverseda wrote: post #14
firesteelrain wrote: post #4

As much as I like Linux, tides won’t be shifting for desktop to Linux. It will be Microsoft Windows for years to come

I honestly think that Gnome is a big part of this. A lot of people very obviously and loudly like it, but since I've been giving developers the option to use KDE they've been a lot happier with it all.

GNOME2 was the apex of GNOME, fortunately MATE and Cinnamon are keeping its legacy alive.

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Post by Solvency »

Every single time I wake up my computer from sleep the Edge browser opens up in full screen. I have as many Edge settings disable as possible, Chrome is my default browser, and there are no keyboard shortcuts that could possibly open it.

It doesn't matter if I press the spacebar, click my mouse, etc. No matter how the PC awakes, Edge launches itself in full view on top of the other apps.

It's blatantly aggravating stuff like this that pisses me off even more than spying telemetry.

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Post by Barrin92 »

>hey are making some improvements like the GUI and cleaning up other elements that give a more cohesive look. No more mixing Metro UI and Legacy panels like Windows 10

I don't even think this is wholly true. The new / old context menu that for some reason now exists in parallel so you have to do two clicks on every right-click actions still mixes legacy and modern UI, and there's so many redundant mouse control and audio control settings also with entirely different look and feel. It's like you're on three Windows operating systems at the same time.

Baffling to me how a company the size of Microsoft cannot streamline their user interfaces.

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Post by erremerre »

I tried changing myself to linux (Fedora) and I still had problems with a Realtek ALC892 for audio, which is a chip from 12 years ago. No solution other than buy a soundcard with a different chip.

Unfortunately, we still be using windows.

Curiously the game were working quite fine as long as I was using x11.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by charles_f »

doawoo wrote: post #7

I really agree with this article- I used Windows as my primary OS (not counting work machines) until about 2 years ago, the mess of non coherent design and CONSTANTLY resetting my user preferences every update (like shoving new buttons [see: ads] onto my taskbar) ultimately lead me to buying the first m1 mbp as my new personal machine. Never looked back. I only boot up windows for occasional games now, and even then,…

Those things, and the performance. My surface laptop is 3y old, constantly lagging on windows, but as good as new on Linux.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by pdimitar »

Microsoft has been driving users away for no less than 10 years now and nothing much is changing IMO because Windows is what most people think of as "the computer". Non-technical users think they have no other choice, they shrug the defects off and try to get their job done.

Though the article kind of piqued my interest by claiming that Microsoft "is in panic" -- any proof that they are indeed bleeding users more than what is deemed normal?

I have noticed people around me get recommended Linux Mint and being happy with it but I'd think that's a minority; many offices rely on bespoke local network setups with printers and scanners and people putting files in shared directories and what-not... modernizing that and making it better is no easy feat.

EDIT: Oh, and as other users are saying, Linux desktop is absolutely not going to eat Windows' lunch. There are still too many confusing things there, and "you can hack it and make it your own" appeal to an infinitesimally small audience.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by hkgirjenk »

alerighi wrote: post #12

I think that Windows was kind of usable till Windows 7. Windows 10 was not that bad from a performance point of view, an improvement over Windows 7, but it had a ton of bloatware that you had to clean up with third party applications, after it it was kind of ok. Anyway, I use Linux and to me Windows is so far behind, for example only in recent years they introduced features such as virtual desktops that in Linux DE a…

Every week when I SSH into my Ubuntu server I see a "System restart is required" message after installing updates.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Post by netsharc »

firesteelrain wrote: post #4

As much as I like Linux, tides won’t be shifting for desktop to Linux. It will be Microsoft Windows for years to come

Yeah, Microsoft's got a huge majority of users captive and now they can do as they please, "Oh you don't like this obnoxious new 'feature'? Well what are you going to do about it?", like an abusive partner.

If only there's some company with money and clout to offer an OS with the same level of user-friendliness... Too bad Google's product managers are just busy trying to advance their own careers, plus it's not like they respect users...

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