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Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike

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Re: Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

devjab wrote: post #44
reaperman wrote: post #23

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> It WOULD work, but alas, you don't do it. This is also why the USA has all those anti-strike laws. My mom did it reasonably often as a teacher. The state made it illegal for her to ever strike again. Maybe not being willing to go to jail for refusing to work is why she doesn't do it? It's crazy to me that the law is basically "show up to work for whatever we decide to pay you, or go to jail" (via contempt of court,…

To many Danes (everyone I’ve ever discussed it with) Americans are simply “ridiculous” in the way you keep electing people who hurt you. It’s like you’re in a continuous abusive relationship with your own democracy. My wife and I just had twins, and while it went fine they needed CPAP to help their lungs develop fully because they were born with a c-section. Which put them in the children’s intensive care unit for ar…

>Like, I have a private health insurance through my job which led me skip a two year wait time when I was diagnosed with bipolar type2 after having some issues with stress.

If I had to wait 2 years for treatment, after paing so much taxes, I'd be livid and assume the public system is providing terrible value for what I'm paying.

Re: Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike

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Post by ponector »

laurentlb wrote: post #34
askonomm wrote: post #11

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Is 60k bad? Pretty sure it's the average salary in the entire Europe.

When I applied to a Ubisoft studio in 2011, the recruiter sent me an email during the hiring process: > [...] we would like to move forward in the process. As you may know, our salaries in the games industry do not compare well with overall IT industry salaries; however, we can offer one of the most prominent development studios in the world [...] I don't have more information, but they seemed well aware their salari…

Not competitive with other IT sectors. But within gaming industry where everyone is getting peanuts they are not that bad but with huge projects.

Re: Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike

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Post by gambiting »

mattmanser wrote: post #67
gambiting wrote: post #49

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The British national motto is literally "well, what are you going to do". I have no idea what it would take for the general population to strike.

We're going through serious strikes at the moment. Right now, the junior doctors are striking. Not sure what you mean by general population, but we had major riots about 10 years ago where some police stations got attacked.

I mean, I have multiple examples of recent and semi-recent government policies that I'm certain would lead to Paris being on actual fire if they were proposed in France, but in the UK they are met with apathy at best. Strikes of rail workers and doctors are of course strikes, but they are mostly limited to just not working, and the impact is mostly pissing off the population rather than the government. It's out of their view, it doesn't impact their lives in any way other than journalists asking annoying questions about it.

Re: Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike

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Post by wazoox »

saiya-jin wrote: post #80
romantomjak wrote: post #5

I'm consistently impressed by French solidarity to just go on a strike until they get their government (or a company in this case) to start treating them fairly. I wish that could work in the UK, but alas, we don't do that here.

Solidarity? You must live far from actual France and have some romantic young rosy view on events far away. Almost everybody who isn't protesting is pissed off at folks protesting, since they block you from doing basic things in life like going to work, shopping groceries, driving anywhere or flying, taking train, going to gas station, going to hospital (I kid you not, you can be unlucky and literally die to negligen…

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Re: Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike

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Post by eloisant »

askonomm wrote: post #11
zooq_ai wrote: post #9

French Software Engineers make $60k per year. I'm sure they wonder why and think striking / unionizing is the answer

Is 60k bad? Pretty sure it's the average salary in the entire Europe.

It doesn't really make sense to talk about an "average salary in the entire Europe" because you have really big discrepancies.

You have high paying locations like Switzerland, Norway, UK, Ireland, Germany, etc, lowish locations like France, Italy, etc, and really low locations like Poland.

Technically you could calculate an overall average but that number would be useless.

Re: Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

xavxav wrote: post #61
silisili wrote: post #42

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How are social protections for say, losing a job, health emergencies, and retirement? 90% of my drive for more and more money is the fear of long term unemployment and knowing there's nobody to come save me. If that fear didn't exist, I'd probably work for half the price to be honest.

> health emergencies We have socialized health care, and even private care is like 1% the cost of american healthcare. I got elective surgery without insurance which included full anethesia in a private clinic and they were very sorry because the total would be 600 euros. > retirement Public retirement is ~50% of your average lifetime salary though the age was recently raised from 62 to 64 (in the face of massive pro…

> I got elective surgery without insurance which included full anethesia in a private clinic and they were very sorry because the total would be 600 euros.

600 Euros for elective surgery with full anesthesia is insanely cheap. Even by EU standards. There must be some subsidies involved from the public health sector for that surgery or something to knock that price down. In Austria a surgery is thousands.

Doctors at a private clinic won't even get out of bed for 600 Euros let alone pay for the whole staff and clinic.

Re: Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike

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Post by johnnyanmac »

arexxbifs wrote: post #71
johnnyanmac wrote: post #43

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I don't want to be dramatic here so don't read too deeply into the comparison: I'm sure black people weren't willing to go to jail either some 60 years ago. Or worse. Most of the biggest change was achieved with the biggest sacrifice. If they throw teachers in jail over not doing their job, the state loses in the long term. If enough refuse to do it they have to bargain, illegal or not. And it wouldn't take long sinc…

> If they throw teachers in jail over not doing their job, the state loses in the long term. British health workers (nurses, ambulance workers) went on strike during 2022 and 2023. Their union eventually accepted a 5% pay increase - down from their initial 19% demand - which doesn't even begin to cover inflation. Most demands fizzle out into nearly nothing and most unions are by now massive bureaucratic machines, sta…

Yeah, not all unions are created equal. We saw some of thst with the Hollywood strikes last year. That's sadly a part of why some anti-union sentiment spreads organically; if the people who are supposed to be looking out for your interest end up being another corporation to fight, what's the point?

That doesn't mean collective bargaining can't work. Especially for critical jobs like medicine and teaching. But it falls back to the issues of sole people not being at wits end and needing to be at wits end before going nuclear, instead of seeing the long term and being able to withstand short term sacrifice.

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Post by tomnipotent »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #90
usea wrote: post #85

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As a first approximation from a quick google search, approximately 2.75% of US children are born to one or more parents who are in the military. This was not hard information to find, but I can't vouch for its veracity; the language used is sloppy and without sources. A bunch of pages all say the same line that 100,000 children are born each year to "military families", or about 1.5 million between 2003 and 2016. Goo…

That's not at all what I talked about wondering about: I have looked for data on just how many Americans get some portion of their medical care covered as military dependents for some portion of their life

A quick search shows that TRICARE has 9.5 million beneficiaries, so ~2.8% of population based on 2020 census. I imagine the number you're looking for isn't far off from that.

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Post by usea »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #90
usea wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a first approximation from a quick google search, approximately 2.75% of US children are born to one or more parents who are in the military. This was not hard information to find, but I can't vouch for its veracity; the language used is sloppy and without sources. A bunch of pages all say the same line that 100,000 children are born each year to "military families", or about 1.5 million between 2003 and 2016. Goo…

That's not at all what I talked about wondering about: I have looked for data on just how many Americans get some portion of their medical care covered as military dependents for some portion of their life

> That's not at all what I talked about wondering about:

You did talk about wondering about it:

> I sometimes wonder how many American children get born while one of their parents is in service.

Re: Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike

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Post by saiya-jin »

wazoox wrote: post #94
saiya-jin wrote: post #80

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Solidarity? You must live far from actual France and have some romantic young rosy view on events far away. Almost everybody who isn't protesting is pissed off at folks protesting, since they block you from doing basic things in life like going to work, shopping groceries, driving anywhere or flying, taking train, going to gas station, going to hospital (I kid you not, you can be unlucky and literally die to negligen…

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