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Ubisoft Employees In France have gone on a Strike
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#32This is remarkable. It's terrible to see how in some creative industries the workforce is managed, with hiring and firing practices. However, it would be great if the industry could adopt a more sustainable approach that benefits both the employees and the company's growth in the long run.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is 60k bad? Pretty sure it's the average salary in the entire Europe.
Average salary isn't an excuse if it's unlivable. It's hard to live on 60K in Europe when a goddamn power cord costs 15 Euro
Sorry but you’re mistaken. 60k€ in France or Germany is a decent salary. Power cords don’t cost 15€? What are you talking about? I see prices way below 10€
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#34French Software Engineers make $60k per year. I'm sure they wonder why and think striking / unionizing is the answer
Is 60k bad? Pretty sure it's the average salary in the entire Europe.
When I applied to a Ubisoft studio in 2011, the recruiter sent me an email during the hiring process:
> [...] we would like to move forward in the process. As you may know, our salaries in the games industry do not compare well with overall IT industry salaries; however, we can offer one of the most prominent development studios in the world [...]
I don't have more information, but they seemed well aware their salaries were not competitive.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is 60k bad? Pretty sure it's the average salary in the entire Europe.
It's pretty low for a software engineer, this is coming from a Swede. I know people inside Ubisoft and they have notoriously low salaries. I work in telco and we pay our developers more than Ubisoft does.
Sweden has such high taxes that Spotify pays like double the average salary to hire foreign talent so they don’t feel the loss of income from being taxed though the butt.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's pretty low for a software engineer, this is coming from a Swede. I know people inside Ubisoft and they have notoriously low salaries. I work in telco and we pay our developers more than Ubisoft does.
Northern Europe has some of the highest salaries in Europe, so that's not a good comparison. Looking from different resources online, it seems the average is around 60k. Spain, for example, has the average of being around 40k and Poland around 30k.
I understand, sorry but I was thinking of all the frequent comparisons made with the bay area on this website. But true enough Scandinavia is at the top of european salaries, at least Stockholm. Not down south where I live in Malmö, because the cost of living is much lower.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
What sorts of salary should French software engineers be making then? $80k? $100k? $200k?
As freelancer in The Netherlands it’s easy to earn 100.000 EUR a year. Can’t imagine it would be much different in France as freelancer. However, as freelancer it’s your own responsibility to save money for holidays, pension, sick leave, transportation, etcetera. However, in the end you should still be financially better of than a “wage slave” so to speak.
I don’t know about Netherlands but if you say it’s easy there, then France is different. It’s possible but not easy to earn 100k€ a year as a freelancer. Unless you work with companies located outside of the country, but then it’s mostly about luck and mostly for top performers, not really something I would consider easy or accessible to the average engineer.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is 60k bad? Pretty sure it's the average salary in the entire Europe.
60k EUR before taxes and healthcare + retirement deduction I suppose. So after taxes and mandatory deductions it is 45k USD, which not that much if you are in a city like Paris.
I live a Paris, with 45k net, you live very comfortably and have an active social life.
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#39French Software Engineers make $60k per year. I'm sure they wonder why and think striking / unionizing is the answer
Is 60k bad? Pretty sure it's the average salary in the entire Europe.
If you get satisfied with a 60k gross salary as an engineer wherever you are in Europe you should maybe question yourself unless you’re full remote in a Bulgarian country side. Cars cost the same everywhere, same goes for flight tickets , electronics, top universities tuition, major food or fashion brands, etc etc.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Average salary isn't an excuse if it's unlivable. It's hard to live on 60K in Europe when a goddamn power cord costs 15 Euro
Sorry but you’re mistaken. 60k€ in France or Germany is a decent salary. Power cords don’t cost 15€? What are you talking about? I see prices way below 10€
€2 at Aldi, I have no idea what the poster is talking about. €60k is a very decent salary.