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Anyone else using ChatGPT to make music? (2023)

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Re: Anyone else using ChatGPT to make music? (2023)

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Post by 8bitsrule »

Depends on what you mean by music. Devices have long been able to make images ... but can they make 'art'? Not trying to be 'argumenty' ... I can (and have) fed (random, as well as 'generated') ( patterns of ) numbers into a sequencer, hooked it up to a synth, and it produced tones). Just like Conlon Nancarrow did.

I thought it was sometimes 'music-ey'. (Often depending on the patch.) My partners-in-crime didn't all agree. I'm just wondering about when it's 'music'.

It's one thing to 'land' on the Moon and another to 'land' upright. ;-}

'Won't Get Fooled Again': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5voNyRmvXs

Re: Anyone else using ChatGPT to make music? (2023)

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Post by anileated »

8bitsrule wrote: post #23

Depends on what you mean by music. Devices have long been able to make images ... but can they make 'art'? Not trying to be 'argumenty' ... I can (and have) fed (random, as well as 'generated') ( patterns of ) numbers into a sequencer, hooked it up to a synth, and it produced tones). Just like Conlon Nancarrow did. I thought it was sometimes 'music-ey'. (Often depending on the patch.) My partners-in-crime didn't all…

Art by definition requires self-expression. There is no self to express = there is no art.

A generated piece of music or visual work is art in the same way a tree or the Moon is art: not at all. It may seem pretty to a human observer, but that’s orthogonal to it being art, it’s just an artifact that exists.

Unfortunately, the wide availability of art-mimicking non-art artifacts devalues art.

However, paradoxically, I suspect the wide availability of ML-powered generative art is also going to raise the value of direct improvisational experience, so in the end it’s a mixed bag.

First we had no way to record, so we gathered to listen to music performers display live their hard-earned skill.

Then we got a way to record, so we could hear live performers display their skill at any time.

Then we got increasingly sophisticated audio recording, mixing, and reproduction tools, which meant what we hear on the record is not entirely performer’s mastery, but also the mastery of audio engineers & producers.

Now we cannot trust that what we listen to is anyone’s mastery, really. It can be algorithmically composed, algorithmically performed, and there is no specific set of individuals whose hard-earned skill we could admire.

The only way to experience that truly would either be to listen to pre-2024 works, or to attend live performances.

Re: Anyone else using ChatGPT to make music? (2023)

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Post by RobinL »

samspenc wrote: post #6

I was wondering how in the world they got ChatGPT to do this, but it's actually interesting: "Got ChatGPT to write some midi music ... used another ChatGPT prompt to create the computer generated voice in python and compiled the track." "ChatGPT told me to write a MusicXML file that I uploaded to https://www.sinsy.jp/ ... Sinsy is an HMM/DNN-based singing voice synthesis system. You can generate a singing voice sampl…

Check out suni.ai, especially outputs from the new v3 model released a couple days back. The quality seems to have gone way beyond background music. E.g https://app.suno.ai/song/efc4e137-3464-49dc-9409-445b9943e3b...

Re: Anyone else using ChatGPT to make music? (2023)

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Post by verticalscaler »

RobinL wrote: post #28
samspenc wrote: post #6

I was wondering how in the world they got ChatGPT to do this, but it's actually interesting: "Got ChatGPT to write some midi music ... used another ChatGPT prompt to create the computer generated voice in python and compiled the track." "ChatGPT told me to write a MusicXML file that I uploaded to https://www.sinsy.jp/ ... Sinsy is an HMM/DNN-based singing voice synthesis system. You can generate a singing voice sampl…

Check out suni.ai, especially outputs from the new v3 model released a couple days back. The quality seems to have gone way beyond background music. E.g https://app.suno.ai/song/efc4e137-3464-49dc-9409-445b9943e3b...

OK this is getting fucking insane, wow!

https://app.suno.ai/song/d6afe7c6-35be-4fde-9d83-d0884cf0a38...

Re: Anyone else using ChatGPT to make music? (2023)

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Post by _spduchamp »

Indirectly. I used ChatGPT to help make this tool, https://editor.p5js.org/spDuchamp/full/zgtkE2xik (ChatGPT+p5js is a handy way to work through an idea.)

That was used to design a balanced irrational arrangement of magnets for a rotary magnetic bow. https://twitter.com/CommonStef/status/1654663207707979776

I use that rotary magnetic bow to do experiments and make music. https://soundcloud.com/spduchamp/sets/6-vs-5-magnet-rotary-m...

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