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Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by medstrom »

phreeza wrote: post #79
medstrom wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you wouldn't use a date. A more likely structure would be: - the front of a flashcard shows a photo from 20 June and the back shows a photo from 21 June - the front of another flashcard shows that same 21 June photo and the back shows a photo from 22 June - and so on! If you have multiple photos per day... maybe you could create a mosaic for each day? Bonus if the mosaic randomizes the order of items on every sh…

Nice idea, though I guess then in order to actually recall a specific day you'd have to traverse through the entire series? Kind of like a linked list vs an array. Maybe some hybrid approach could work with some "anchor" days that you can get to directly and then traverse from there.

You'd think so, but that shouldn't be necessary with spaced repetition. It's the same how you'd memorize a verse such as the following:

> Roll forth, my song, like the rushing river,

> That sweeps along to the mighty sea;

> God will inspire me while I deliver

> My soul of thee!

> Tell thou the world, when my bones lie whitening

> Amid the last homes of youth and eld,

> That once there was one whose veins ran lightning

> No eye beheld.

There are 8 lines in this verse, so you make 7 flashcards. One flashcard just teaches you how to remember the second line, having heard the first line. Another flashcard just teaches you how to remember the third line, having heard the second line. Et cetera.

Then someone comes along and quotes the first line to you, and you can immediately reproduce the rest.

Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by aubanel »

> My New Year's Resolution in 2019 was to learn the piano. Key to success is building mental representations of music and the keyboard. Increasingly, I do this by playing pieces on my mental piano

As a correct pianist (lots of classical study, and sometimes I am paid to play in bars), this seems very weird to me. I don't see how doing this could be any useful for learning, it seems like a waste of effort.

Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by Andrex »

aubanel wrote: post #92

> My New Year's Resolution in 2019 was to learn the piano. Key to success is building mental representations of music and the keyboard. Increasingly, I do this by playing pieces on my mental piano As a correct pianist (lots of classical study, and sometimes I am paid to play in bars), this seems very weird to me. I don't see how doing this could be any useful for learning, it seems like a waste of effort.

I would say 90% of the struggle of my learning to play piano was developing the correct muscle memory for the right motions for the right measures of the right song.

The academic "Can I read and understand this sheet music?" is maybe 10%.

It's possible if you put in the decades required to build up all the muscle memory needed for any song you might need to play (or you are a virtuoso), in which case reading and understanding the sheet music may be 90+% of your "practice time"... but the most accomplished pianists I know of still have to practice (with their hands) consistently.

Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by snitzr »

I take snapshots on film for fun and sometimes don't develop the film for a few months. When I finally see the photos I've taken, I might have forgotten most of the detail from that time. I see the photo and it jogs my memory. But I'm never sure if my memory is a hallucination extrapolated from the photo or if I'm using the photo to recall something that I just needed help to remember. It's like that experiment that showed people a faked picture of themselves in a hot air balloon. Many of the people shown this false photo would respond by creating false memories. My photos are really me but I wonder how accurate is any recollection beyond the photo.

Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by Hunpeter »

aubanel wrote: post #92

> My New Year's Resolution in 2019 was to learn the piano. Key to success is building mental representations of music and the keyboard. Increasingly, I do this by playing pieces on my mental piano As a correct pianist (lots of classical study, and sometimes I am paid to play in bars), this seems very weird to me. I don't see how doing this could be any useful for learning, it seems like a waste of effort.

I think mental practice (e.g. visualizing yourself playing in the place you will perform next day, going through the sheet music consciously noting your intent and possible difficulties, or memorizing complex passages without the keyboard etc.) is a great complement to actual physical practice. It's no substitute, but at least it can be done basically anywhere.

Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by turtleyacht »

medstrom wrote: post #91
phreeza wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice idea, though I guess then in order to actually recall a specific day you'd have to traverse through the entire series? Kind of like a linked list vs an array. Maybe some hybrid approach could work with some "anchor" days that you can get to directly and then traverse from there.

You'd think so, but that shouldn't be necessary with spaced repetition. It's the same how you'd memorize a verse such as the following: > Roll forth, my song, like the rushing river, > That sweeps along to the mighty sea; > God will inspire me while I deliver > My soul of thee! > Tell thou the world, when my bones lie whitening > Amid the last homes of youth and eld, > That once there was one whose veins ran lightnin…

The Nameless One by James Clarence Mangan

Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by ler_ »

Really late to the party on this, but I don't see the purpose of remembering every day without fail. For my part, I have been journaling for a while now, and every day I make a note of something that happened. However, I don't get so caught up with particular moments.

If you have enough data, to put it this way, then you notice that most things you do, feel or think are somewhat circular. You come back to certain emotions, you come back to certain perceptions. Remembering by itself, in the absence of reflection, makes little sense. Plus, whenever I do glean something from my previous writings, it is usually due to understanding the general "feel" of a time in my life, not so much memorizing a particular day.

>The moments captured in my images are fresh, but my perspective on them changes.

I like that the author acknowledges that here. Again, though, I do think it matters more to interpret one's experience as opposed to having a perfect recollection of the facts. And, to be fair, what he does, and what I do, sounds more like a way to handle far more existential concerns. I suppose we want to hold on to life, to give it meaning in some way by always being a witness to what has been. Maybe we would all be better served by acknowledging the underlying philosophical conundrum here, haha.

Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by phreeza »

medstrom wrote: post #91
phreeza wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice idea, though I guess then in order to actually recall a specific day you'd have to traverse through the entire series? Kind of like a linked list vs an array. Maybe some hybrid approach could work with some "anchor" days that you can get to directly and then traverse from there.

You'd think so, but that shouldn't be necessary with spaced repetition. It's the same how you'd memorize a verse such as the following: > Roll forth, my song, like the rushing river, > That sweeps along to the mighty sea; > God will inspire me while I deliver > My soul of thee! > Tell thou the world, when my bones lie whitening > Amid the last homes of youth and eld, > That once there was one whose veins ran lightnin…

Yea so for a poem this is working as intended of course, but when remembering your life would you not prefer to be able to recall arbitrary days without having to recite your life from day one?

Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by medstrom »

phreeza wrote: post #98
medstrom wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd think so, but that shouldn't be necessary with spaced repetition. It's the same how you'd memorize a verse such as the following: > Roll forth, my song, like the rushing river, > That sweeps along to the mighty sea; > God will inspire me while I deliver > My soul of thee! > Tell thou the world, when my bones lie whitening > Amid the last homes of youth and eld, > That once there was one whose veins ran lightnin…

Yea so for a poem this is working as intended of course, but when remembering your life would you not prefer to be able to recall arbitrary days without having to recite your life from day one?

OK, you want to be able to respond to a query like "when did I have that new cool hamburger?" Something like that? I'd think you usually could since you do have other memories aside from what the flashcards gave you (I hope). Like this:

- you know that you had a fight with your partner sometime in June

- you know (thanks to flashcards) that you had that new cool hamburger some days after you had a fight with your partner

- therefore, you had that new cool hamburger in June

Presto! And if you have some other fact to tie a June memory to an exact date, and you can probably "walk" to the exact date for the hamburger too.

Re: Ten years of remembering every day that passes (2022)

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Post by c4ptnj4ck »

wakawaka28 wrote: post #55
cogman10 wrote: post #36

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States with the death penalty are finding it hard to find doctors and suppliers to carry out the punishment. I don't, frankly, think there's a lot of perverse incentive. For the medical field, the incentive is for longevity. Nursing homes make money on occupancy, they aren't going to want to kill off their primary source of income. The state might care, but they have an uphill battle if they tried pulling off soylent…

Killing people to take their organs would be one perverse incentive. Reducing costs to the state would be another. Canada has been taking the lead with euthanasia. They propose it as a solution for such things as depression and poverty, or anything else that would make life unbearable for you (regardless of whether it's reasonable). See: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/another-case-of-a-sick-... https://www.theg…

your premise that killing people to take their organs is a perverse incentive doesn't make sense to me.. The person who could have a perverse incentive would be the person receiving organs, when there are far easier, cheaper, and effective ways for a physician to increase profit. Additionally, people who are sick enough to qualify are the least likely candidates for organ donation/transplantation.

Also did you even read the articles posted? It no where states or alludes to the idea that the state is providing euthanasia to solve either depression or poverty. I really don't get how you came to that conclusion. All it says is that people with severe medical disabilities who are too impoverished to get adequate care the state isn't providing would rather die. It's free to change medical regulation allowing physician assisted suicide. On the other hand, we don't even know how to solve poverty, even if the political willpower and money suddenly appeared.

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