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Post by anotheruser13 »

DinaCoder99 wrote: post #67
bruce511 wrote: post #14

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I'm not downvoting you, because I assume uour comment was in good faith. The phrase "death panels" though is unfortunate. Nobody has death panels, nobody wants death panels, no health system anywhere private or public has death panels. It's just a scary phrase used in a political context. Ultimately all health systems make choices at every level of care. Triage is a thing. Organ recipient lists are a thing. Hospital…

> Nobody has death panels Arguably this is just a description of private insurance, ironically. A group of people decides who gets treatment and who doesn't—except the scarcity here is "profit", not a real resource.

In 1945, President Truman proposed a national healthcare plan to Congress. In his plan, he outlined five main goals:

Address the lack of trained healthcare professionals in all communities. Grow public health services. Increase funding to medical research and education. Lower the cost of individual medical care. Bring attention to the loss of income when severe illness takes hold.

Source https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/education/presidential-inquiri...

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by Jensson »

silverquiet wrote: post #154
swat535 wrote: post #149

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What a ridiculous statement, are you saying that lower income families don't live a life of dignity because they can't project "substantial economic" value? If your argument is about providing enough to have a roof over your head, then that doesn't equate to "substantial economic value". I find such obsession with wealth very unhealthy.

Roofs aren’t getting any cheaper. Neither are healthcare or education. If you really want to experience indignity, try obtaining all that on a low income.

You do get all of roof, healthcare and education on a low income.

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Post by scarface_74 »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #153
scarface_74 wrote: post #60

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I started programming in 6th grade in assembly on Apple //e in 1986. By the time o graduated from college in 1996, I programmed as a hobbyist in assembly on four architectures - 65C02, 68K, PPC and x86. The last time I programmed as a hobbyist was 1996. For the next 15 years my hobby was teaching fitness classes, running and lifting weights. I got married in 2012 and became a father to a 9 and 14 year old. When the y…

Congrats! If it was impossible for you to go back as a software developer, would you resume software development as a hobby?

Absolutely not.

I would spend more time in the gym and go back to teaching fitness classes and do personal training.

I would learn a couple of foreign languages.

My wife and I sold everything we owned and bought a unit in a condotel (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/condotel.asp) it is our legal official “home”.

From 10/2022 - 10/2023 we traveled around the US taking one way flights and rented our place out.

We would do more international traveling. I was limited to traveling mostly in the US since I had to fly to client’s sites, restrictions on logging in outside of the country for some GovCloud work and time zones.

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Post by herbst »

bmitc wrote: post #111
herbst wrote: post #88

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I was never passionate about work until I did my own thing on my own time. Now I am proud and really like my work. I don't think I could have ever lived that feeling working for someone else.

How did you make the transition?

Burnout, travelling, moving back to my mom, consistent trying and evolving and possibly great luck.

If you ask from a financial perspective, mostly trough our social system. I wasn't able to work, when I was again nobody stressed me to do so and now I am back, happily paying back into the system, at my own pace.

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Post by samsin »

hestefisk wrote: post #82
mooreds wrote: post #72

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I live in the USA and always wonder what awesome companies or organizations are we missing out on because people are tied to their employer due to healthcare. I know at least one couple close to retirement that is waiting until one of them can get onto cobra for the months before they can get onto Medicare. (They just budgeted for cobra in their planning.) I like how the Aussies do it (or at least how they did it las…

Aussie here. Very few employers here offer health plans. Medicare is more or less like NHS in the UK. If you earn more than a certain amount, you have to pay for your own private health insurance. It is significantly cheaper than in the US. Source: myself

Slight correction, you have to pay a levy if you earn over ~90k/year and don’t have private hospital cover.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by dennis_jeeves2 »

evantbyrne wrote: post #170
shipscode wrote: post #134

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Goodwill dissipates hard when your remote only company starts mandating an injection.

I've always assumed that vaccination requirements were just intelligence tests in disguise.

Depends on which side of the intelligence fence you are on. Each side claims to be intelligent, of course only on one side is.

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Post by dennis_jeeves2 »

scarface_74 wrote: post #53
bogota wrote: post #48

This is something i think has been slowly changing in the US. At least among the people i know. Work is now just work. Five years ago it had to be your passion it is what you wanted or at least i wanted to be defined by. After seeing how little any company cares about people work is what i try to spend the least amount of time doing. At 5 or ideally 4 i clock out and only respond if I am paged. Additionally i have ch…

I am almost 50 and on my ninth job. I haven’t been “passionate” about my job ever. It has always served as no more than a means to support my addiction to food and shelter.

> I am almost 50 and on my ninth job. I haven’t been “passionate” about my job ever.

You sir, were a wise man even when you were young (Not being sarcastic). A very rare trait among people young or old.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by dennis_jeeves2 »

doix wrote: post #150
quonn wrote: post #109

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> metal smith (silver gold etc), welder, carpentry, plumber, mechanic, fine artist, sculptor, textile Industrial production has had a huge impact on many of those and will continue doing so. It‘s wrong to romanticize these jobs, they are just a likely to be automated.

Anything that can be mass produced, yes. Anything that requires bespoke work with dexterity, unlikely. I think it's much more likely LLMs become good enough to replace programmers before we have robots replacing plumbers.

>robots replacing plumbers

That would be utopia.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

bogota wrote: post #48

This is something i think has been slowly changing in the US. At least among the people i know. Work is now just work. Five years ago it had to be your passion it is what you wanted or at least i wanted to be defined by. After seeing how little any company cares about people work is what i try to spend the least amount of time doing. At 5 or ideally 4 i clock out and only respond if I am paged. Additionally i have ch…

> "Work is now just work. Five years ago it had to be your passion it is what you wanted or at least i wanted to be defined by."

Surely you jest. The Dilbert comic strip started in 1989 and even then people were remarking about how eerily realistic it was about how uncaring, lacking in loyalty, stupid, and generally soul crushing corporations and corporate life was. It was tremendously popular for just that reason.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by fargle »

usually when i read these type of articles, i don't have a lot of sympathy for the folks who didn't know how lucky or entitled they were and probably still don't quite.

not the case here. i really appreciate her attitude. i raise a glass to health and success.

i think it's true that skills and being a good engineer may not necessarily keep you safe from a layoff, but a tough smart person with the right attitude will often be a great engineer too. and that kind will always be appreciated and will survive.

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