Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Losing two jobs in one year

jbennetcodes.medium.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

101–110 of 192 posts

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#101

Post by brailsafe »

megamix wrote: post #79
mooreds wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. What is an example of a 'real craft'? I'm not sure I follow.

Oh my bad! You can either categorize them as 'artisans' and 'blue collar'. E.g. in no particular order: metal smith (silver gold etc), welder, carpentry, plumber, mechanic, fine artist, sculptor, textile. Basically the 'real trades' that have been around and should be around for many years. The type of jobs that the white collars can't do without. Either you outperform other CEOs and get rich on your own business, or…

I don't really see how any of those examples are intrinsically different than being an independent contractor of any kind, with the exception of them being physical or purely artistic endeavors.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#102

Post by tock »

Epa095 wrote: post #98
DinaCoder99 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what?

Idk, depends on what tickles your fancy I guess. But I have never had a job where there's nothing fun or interesting. It can't all just be that mundane and easy? Personally I find joy in two different settings - the hard problems, where I have to go for a walk around the apartment, and think about it when I shover. These are rare. - putting on some music, pouring myself some coffee, and just coding up something relat…

I do find some joy building hard stuff. But if I didn't need the money I really wouldn't work. When I fancy hard work I'll just contribute to OSS.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#103

Post by twojobsoneboss »

andyg_blog wrote: post #8

Sometimes it takes an existential event in our lives to really drive home what actually matters. On your death bed you won't wish that you spent more time delivering value to a company (even a great one) than spending time nurturing relationships with loved ones. On another note, your value as a human is not the same as the economic value you produce, and it's too easy to conflate the two

Unfortunately you have to project substantial economic value to live a life of dignity (esp with a family) and so there’s no getting away from it with the current state of affairs

You can’t just “live a nourishing life”, you have to do both

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#104

Post by kevmo »

mooreds wrote: post #72
iamflimflam1 wrote: post #51

Whenever I read articles like this, I’m so grateful that in the U.K. healthcare is not tied to your job. The NHS may struggle and have its issues. But I have never had to experience the stress of the thought of losing access to care.

I live in the USA and always wonder what awesome companies or organizations are we missing out on because people are tied to their employer due to healthcare. I know at least one couple close to retirement that is waiting until one of them can get onto cobra for the months before they can get onto Medicare. (They just budgeted for cobra in their planning.) I like how the Aussies do it (or at least how they did it las…

"How will we pay for universal healthcare???"

By massive inefficiencies being removed from our economy.

Also, it'll literally be cheaper if you look at any other country that has implemented it.

There will be a huge wave of innovation whenever the USA implements nationalized healthcare.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#105

Post by generic92034 »

andyg_blog wrote: post #8

Sometimes it takes an existential event in our lives to really drive home what actually matters. On your death bed you won't wish that you spent more time delivering value to a company (even a great one) than spending time nurturing relationships with loved ones. On another note, your value as a human is not the same as the economic value you produce, and it's too easy to conflate the two

As you get older, you might run out of loved ones, at least in the strict sense. That is when your last sentence becomes important and you have to find value in yourself and your daily life.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#106

Post by roenxi »

mooreds wrote: post #68
nlitened wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is something i think has been slowly changing in the US. At least among the people i know. I think your cohort is just aging.

It's hard to know, right? I think that COVID knocked the crap out of a lot of social norms, one of those being "live to work". But it could also be aging, as nothing helps you understand life is short like seeing obituaries of people only a few years older than you (or even younger than you).

I'd guess the sequence is people start off young and naive, live through a downturn and then discover that the contract lays out precisely what their employer thinks of them.

Doing the job then going home is not a new philosophy. The people living to work are just gullible.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#107

Post by forinti »

mooreds wrote: post #72
iamflimflam1 wrote: post #51

Whenever I read articles like this, I’m so grateful that in the U.K. healthcare is not tied to your job. The NHS may struggle and have its issues. But I have never had to experience the stress of the thought of losing access to care.

I live in the USA and always wonder what awesome companies or organizations are we missing out on because people are tied to their employer due to healthcare. I know at least one couple close to retirement that is waiting until one of them can get onto cobra for the months before they can get onto Medicare. (They just budgeted for cobra in their planning.) I like how the Aussies do it (or at least how they did it las…

I think the current housing crisis in the US should lead to a new social pact, but I don't see any movement towards one.

I just don't understand why citizens of such a rich country would want to live so precariously.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#108

Post by weikju »

neilkk wrote: post #90
eastbound wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like helping the new marketing girl grow from a noob in everything to an absolutely master of a PO, Like building a product so well made that it makes people say “I’ve searched for 15 years for this product”; Like watching this self-absorbed geek grow from a 40-yo single to a polished mannered person with a girlfriend. I mean no-one is excited to build an accounting software, but I’m excited when people grow. Actuall…

[flagged]

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#109

Post by quonn »

megamix wrote: post #79
mooreds wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. What is an example of a 'real craft'? I'm not sure I follow.

Oh my bad! You can either categorize them as 'artisans' and 'blue collar'. E.g. in no particular order: metal smith (silver gold etc), welder, carpentry, plumber, mechanic, fine artist, sculptor, textile. Basically the 'real trades' that have been around and should be around for many years. The type of jobs that the white collars can't do without. Either you outperform other CEOs and get rich on your own business, or…

> metal smith (silver gold etc), welder, carpentry, plumber, mechanic, fine artist, sculptor, textile

Industrial production has had a huge impact on many of those and will continue doing so. It‘s wrong to romanticize these jobs, they are just a likely to be automated.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

#110

Post by switch007 »

iamflimflam1 wrote: post #51

Whenever I read articles like this, I’m so grateful that in the U.K. healthcare is not tied to your job. The NHS may struggle and have its issues. But I have never had to experience the stress of the thought of losing access to care.

For non emergency care, slowly it is IMO. The private medical that comes with jobs is pretty reassuring for non emergency issues. It doesn’t cover an awful lot but I’ve found aspects of it very helpful over the years. (Referrals to specialists within a week or two, video/phone appointments with a GP same/next day) etc.

I wouldn’t take a job that didn’t offer it (it’s pretty standard in our industry)

It’s annoying that it’s taxed at your highest income tax band (20/40/45%) as if it were some kind of super luxury. Maybe 20 years ago, sure. I think the company has to pay insurance tax on the premium too!

But yes it’s reassuring to know an emergency won’t ever bankrupt me.

Post reply on HN