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Quality is a hard sell in big tech

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Re: Quality is a hard sell in big tech

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Great article, on a side note I wish we had a better word than ‘enshittification’.

This ‘word’ has no etymological roots and cannot be taught to kids/teenagers or placed in the dictionary/thesaurus (most likely placed under the vulgar section if it has one) or cannot be said on tv or radio (some stations and channels have a policy that prohibits strong language being said over the airwaves)

There has to be a better word than this before we can just make up words that contains strong language without thinking about it.

Re: Quality is a hard sell in big tech

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Great article, on a side note I wish we had a better word than ‘enshittification’. This ‘word’ has no etymological roots and cannot be taught to kids/teenagers or placed in the dictionary/thesaurus (most likely placed under the vulgar section if it has one) or cannot be said on tv or radio (some stations and channels have a policy that prohibits strong language being said over the airwaves) There has to be a better w…

“Worsening”

Re: Quality is a hard sell in big tech

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> Big tech products can't just keep getting shittier—can they?

Well I think they can still get a lot shittier, but no. Eventually the "I could run an instance for myself and my neighbors and it would be better than this" line will dip below the enshittification trend line.

Meanwhile, people are working on ways to avoid having their work be shackled to something that's destined to become less trustworthy over time (the critical dependency varies, but it's usually in there somewhere, it's wherever you get your "moat" from). So there's hope. The replacements have a chance at escaping the cycle.

We gotta stop building things that control people and start building them because we actually want the outcomes that they make possible. Until we do that, the enshittification will continue.

Re: Quality is a hard sell in big tech

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Great article, on a side note I wish we had a better word than ‘enshittification’. This ‘word’ has no etymological roots and cannot be taught to kids/teenagers or placed in the dictionary/thesaurus (most likely placed under the vulgar section if it has one) or cannot be said on tv or radio (some stations and channels have a policy that prohibits strong language being said over the airwaves) There has to be a better w…

The word “shit” is being “deshittified” which I think is… awful.

Re: Quality is a hard sell in big tech

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Quality code is simple code, simple code does not provide job security nor does it pad CVs, its not only a top down conspiracy but a bottom up one as well

There's more to quality code is simple code.

Some things or situations are inherently complex to handle and you may still want software for them (especially because they are complex). Simple code won't usually handle complex stuff, and you may still need quality.

Now you should reach for simplicity. Which may itself be complex to define.

Re: Quality is a hard sell in big tech

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Great article, on a side note I wish we had a better word than ‘enshittification’. This ‘word’ has no etymological roots and cannot be taught to kids/teenagers or placed in the dictionary/thesaurus (most likely placed under the vulgar section if it has one) or cannot be said on tv or radio (some stations and channels have a policy that prohibits strong language being said over the airwaves) There has to be a better w…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

> Doctorow has used the term platform decay to describe the same concept.

Re: Quality is a hard sell in big tech

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Great article, on a side note I wish we had a better word than ‘enshittification’. This ‘word’ has no etymological roots and cannot be taught to kids/teenagers or placed in the dictionary/thesaurus (most likely placed under the vulgar section if it has one) or cannot be said on tv or radio (some stations and channels have a policy that prohibits strong language being said over the airwaves) There has to be a better w…

Sorry... I tried to fight that battle when it first became popular and just got snarked on and voted down. Like it or not, the tech community has decided that Cory Doctorow's poop joke is a precise term of art to be taken seriously in technical discussion. People will even gatekeep it, if you use it in the wrong context.

It's a very important and necessary word, apparently.

Re: Quality is a hard sell in big tech

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Part of this is the hubris of Big Tech in shedding test teams and skilled testers in favor of devs who claim they can do it themselves. And then don’t. Because they don’t enjoy testing, and they aren’t rewarded for doing good testing.
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