i just want a HN social network :33
what's it worth to you on an annual basis?
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Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
what's it worth to you on an annual basis?
I'm happier just running an Elgg instance on a cloud server and inviting the people I know to post there. 10-12 people sharing shit they found elsewhere and starting conversations is more than enough for me.
maybs explore crypto twitter
(if u’d like to)
10-12 peeps sharing wud probs be like HN being exclusive “tech posts”
iykyk
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#93I keep hearing about Scuttlebutt for a long time but haven't seen anyone actually using it? Why? edit: hm, the recommended application on the website itself is ... from 2021, and the github of the app itself is archived now. And there is "bleeding edge" one ... from 2019. OK I can see that there might be problems
Scuttlebutt had the Bitcoin like problem of requiring everybody to have a local copy of the entire database, with a confusing / glitchy "syncing" process to download the latest posts. I tried to use it for a few days on my Android, but it never showed any new posts and the syncing process took like 30 seconds every time I opened the app.
A true Satoshi whitepaper Bitcoin would include everyone having a local copy of the database as well as peer-to-peer connections. No necessary middlemen. Is this correct.
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#95I really don't see why decentralised social networks are any better privacy-wise than centralised. If big corp has financial incentives to gather and use your data, then smaller servers do, too. At least big corp is a legal entity that you can sue.
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#96Scuettlebutt is an incredibly important data structure.
Its horribly under rated and horribly under invested in.
Its core data structure is a personal blockchain whose consensus scheme is a proof of signature and a proof of history (through chained hashes). There is no global consensus, identity is fiat as it is in the real world.
This makes the data structure gossipable and verifiable.
It has scaling challenges. It needs to be turned into a blocktree to support multi-device support. The content needs to be moved out of the tree.
But most of this is solvable with very little effort.
Scuttlebutt is an overlay network for the internet that enables us to build a truly open web.
Its one step away from making humans, their devices, and their content, addressable for the web in a meaningful way.
That small data structure removes the need for a central server.
The future will remember what dtarr did on a sailboat.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone here is focused on the tech and I'm here wondering how I'm supposed to convince my friends and family to join me on something called Scuttlebutt.
The name was the part I liked best! "Scuttlebutt" is a naval term for a water keg, and it became slang for conversation around the watering hole. In other words, it was gossip around the water cooler from before we had water coolers.
Yes, an actual literal 'gossip protocol' named Scuttlebutt. Unpardonable. /s
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#98I really don't see why decentralised social networks are any better privacy-wise than centralised. If big corp has financial incentives to gather and use your data, then smaller servers do, too. At least big corp is a legal entity that you can sue.
Equity is far more important than access control.
You login to Netflix and they deliver you a video file. Millions of people have access to Netflix's video files.
But access is The Pirate Bay. Rights are Netflix.
Just because you have access to a car doesn't mean you have a right to your car.
Just because you have access to a house doesn't mean you have a right to the house.
Just because you have access to a video doesn't mean you have a right to the video.
Just because Big Corp has access to your data doesn't mean they have a right to your data.
Your data is your data. It's time we remember that and build equity back into the web.
And then we need to work back from equity to access control to enforce equity.
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#99I keep hearing about Scuttlebutt for a long time but haven't seen anyone actually using it? Why? edit: hm, the recommended application on the website itself is ... from 2021, and the github of the app itself is archived now. And there is "bleeding edge" one ... from 2019. OK I can see that there might be problems
Scuttlebutt had the Bitcoin like problem of requiring everybody to have a local copy of the entire database, with a confusing / glitchy "syncing" process to download the latest posts. I tried to use it for a few days on my Android, but it never showed any new posts and the syncing process took like 30 seconds every time I opened the app.
This isn't entirely true.
Scuttelbutt had some design and scaling issues.
But there wasn't a global database. Each user gets their own blockchain.
Its a network of tiny blockchains where the consensus model was the signature from the private key and the chain of hashes.
Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform
#100I keep hearing about Scuttlebutt for a long time but haven't seen anyone actually using it? Why? edit: hm, the recommended application on the website itself is ... from 2021, and the github of the app itself is archived now. And there is "bleeding edge" one ... from 2019. OK I can see that there might be problems
Why? Well, for one thing, it's an append-only log, which I would argue is a terrible choice for a social network.
Append-only logs are fine as long as they only contain pointers to content.
You can store 10k blocks in the size of a JPG image.
And, when trees grow large, with stale data that has been forgotten by the network, you can do garbage collection/compaction by shaking out the dead references and sharing a new tree.
Its just SSB never reached this point.