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Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by serial_dev »

earthwalker99 wrote: post #18
shp0ngle wrote: post #11

I keep hearing about Scuttlebutt for a long time but haven't seen anyone actually using it? Why? edit: hm, the recommended application on the website itself is ... from 2021, and the github of the app itself is archived now. And there is "bleeding edge" one ... from 2019. OK I can see that there might be problems

> I keep hearing about Scuttlebutt for a long time but haven't seen anyone actually using it? Why? It's called Scuttlebutt, meaning it can never be remotely popular enough to function as a worthwhile social network.

2024 will be the year of Mastodong.

Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by samatman »

kstrauser wrote: post #55
ziddoap wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's a normal English word I mean, it's an English word, for sure. I have never once in my many years heard someone actually say it seriously. Maybe a handful of times when someone was purposefully trying to be quirky.

Weird. Maybe it's a regional thing. I've only heard it through the midwest and the west coast. Also, all the freaking time when I was in the US Navy.

The guy who started the project is a sailor, so that tracks.

Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by evbogue »

astro1 wrote: post #50

Are there are any differences at all between Scuttlebutt and Nostr?

The biggest architectural difference is Nostr has no cryptographic association between the posts.

But Nostr was launched as a response to SSB: https://fiatjaf.com/nostr.html (scroll down to 'the problem with SSB' section)

Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by RankingMember »

rglullis wrote: post #52
oli-g wrote: post #48

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When it's a DB layer, sure. When it's a social network? "Hey guys, have you seen Dave's new post on Poopypants?"

Again, that's a total midwit dismissal. Scuttlebutt has a context and a meaning behind it. People might hear it without knowing the context, think "that it's a weird name, why is it so?", and then judge whether they like it or not. But to just hear the name and claim that it is inappropriate/bad/not-to-be-used because it reminds you of something that has nothing to do with the original context is ridiculous.

No offense, but you're repeatedly using the term "midwit", which demonstrates that you have a higher-than-average tolerance/liking for non-layman vocabulary, and so might not be the best judge of what the average person is going to accept. Most people are not going to bother looking up the etymology of a word before dismissing a product named using it. Personally, I'm not a fan of the name because it's a word that, like "jitterbug", I associate with old people, because the only people I've known to use it in conversation are over 65.

Orgs spend millions on naming/branding because they know a name that doesn't hit right to the ear is going to be at a disadvantage. The vast majority of folks aren't going to bother giving your product a second thought if it doesn't appeal to them or has a negative connotation in their head right off the bat, regardless of the name's deeper relevance or origin.

Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by yownie »

rglullis wrote: post #52
oli-g wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When it's a DB layer, sure. When it's a social network? "Hey guys, have you seen Dave's new post on Poopypants?"

Again, that's a total midwit dismissal. Scuttlebutt has a context and a meaning behind it. People might hear it without knowing the context, think "that it's a weird name, why is it so?", and then judge whether they like it or not. But to just hear the name and claim that it is inappropriate/bad/not-to-be-used because it reminds you of something that has nothing to do with the original context is ridiculous.

it's not ridiculous and countless FOSS projects will keep banging their head upon the wall forever till they actually learn it.

Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by BizarroLand »

pizzafeelsright wrote: post #38
thx wrote: post #9

i just want a HN social network :33

what's it worth to you on an annual basis?

I'm happier just running an Elgg instance on a cloud server and inviting the people I know to post there. 10-12 people sharing shit they found elsewhere and starting conversations is more than enough for me.

Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by thatwasunusual »

jrm4 wrote: post #26
earthwalker99 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I keep hearing about Scuttlebutt for a long time but haven't seen anyone actually using it? Why? It's called Scuttlebutt, meaning it can never be remotely popular enough to function as a worthwhile social network.

Upvoting because I'm also the guy who understands that, similarly, GIMP will never be big as it should be.

> GIMP will never be big as it should be.

But having something "photoshopped" is a bad thing. Interesting. :)

Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

oli-g wrote: post #47
jrm4 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upvoting because I'm also the guy who understands that, similarly, GIMP will never be big as it should be.

I wanted to hate on it, but I just downloaded the latest version and I see that after like 20 years, they finally realized that each tool window doesn't have to be a separate application. Good for them, for once I might be able to try actually try it.

I think single-window mode came as part of version 2.8, just shy of 12 years ago.

Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by jdougan »

oli-g wrote: post #49
losvedir wrote: post #23

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Why? I think it's a fine name, better than most, because it's a normal English word that says exactly what it does / what it's for. You're not just saying that because the word happens to end in "butt" are you? Or am I missing something?

> You're not just saying that because the word happens to end in "butt" are you? They're saying precisely that and they're 100% right, and it seems you're missing a lot of things. It's a social network. Its only value is in it having people using it and coming back. Just try and imagine any person in your IRL circles (who's not on HN) actually using a social network with butt in its name. I seriously can't believe yo…

> we have a new "social network" for smart, like-minded tech-savvy middle-aged people.

Sounds great to me. The hard part is keeping the scammers away. If a ridiculous name can do that, I'm up for it.

Re: Scuttlebutt social network: a decentralised platform

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Post by megous »

Solvency wrote: post #59
kstrauser wrote: post #54

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The name was the part I liked best! "Scuttlebutt" is a naval term for a water keg, and it became slang for conversation around the watering hole. In other words, it was gossip around the water cooler from before we had water coolers.

...and this is why 99% of niche developer attempts don't flourish into the next big social network. Might as well call it "Codswallop", which is also a valid historical slang that is equally completely ridiculous for mass appeal.

Yeah, yahoo and google is very meaningful on the other hand.
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