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FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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Re: FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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Bought a PineTime for $27 plus shipping. Wear it while running to measure my BPM. I send the BPM to the Gadgetbridge Android app via Bluetooth. Upgraded Infinitime via Bluetooth. Have not messed around with the OS code yet. Have been happy so far.

I love my little PineTime. It's a great little watch. Took a little bit to work through to start up, but after that it's pretty golden. Simple and has the basics. I don't want a watch that can do everything, that's what my phone is for.

Re: FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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What are you talking about? They're extremely clear when some hardware is aimed at developers and code is not yet ready for users, which for example is the case of the PineNote. https://pine64.com/product/pinenote-developer-edition/

Their hardware is aimed at developers and yet none of their products has even a decent developing environment?

It's not aimed at developers, it's aimed at hackers

Re: FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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From looking at the slides it looks like a really impressive project.

But I can't help but feel like very low cost full-blown Linux devices are right around the corner. Ex: https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/02/08/licheerv-nano-low-co...

If you can run full blown Debian on your wrist soon, why bother with this severely restricted device that are a pain in the ass to develop for?

Re: FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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From looking at the slides it looks like a really impressive project. But I can't help but feel like very low cost full-blown Linux devices are right around the corner. Ex: https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/02/08/licheerv-nano-low-co... If you can run full blown Debian on your wrist soon, why bother with this severely restricted device that are a pain in the ass to develop for?

But I can't help but feel like very low cost full-blown Linux devices are right around the corner.

why is that a but?

i don't think this is a case of, if we had waited longer we could have made them cheaper, but i rather believe that pine64, fairphone, and other projects going all the way back to openmoko were laying the groundwork that make the next generation of cheaper and better devices even possible.

so yes, very low cost full-blown Linux devices may very well be around the corner, but that's no reason to dismiss the pine64 products, on the contrary, they should be lauded for being pioneers

Re: FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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From looking at the slides it looks like a really impressive project. But I can't help but feel like very low cost full-blown Linux devices are right around the corner. Ex: https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/02/08/licheerv-nano-low-co... If you can run full blown Debian on your wrist soon, why bother with this severely restricted device that are a pain in the ass to develop for?

But I can't help but feel like very low cost full-blown Linux devices are right around the corner. why is that a but? i don't think this is a case of, if we had waited longer we could have made them cheaper, but i rather believe that pine64, fairphone, and other projects going all the way back to openmoko were laying the groundwork that make the next generation of cheaper and better devices even possible. so yes, ver…

I'm not any kind of authority on this, but for the most part the hacker/OSS community is taking cheap chips and repurposing the hardware for other stuff. So progress in the space happens on its own. For instance the chip in the Lychee RV Nano is made for IP cameras. I guess my point is that once you can run Debian on your wrist (which will happen for external reasons), all these complex setups with customs RTOS stacks that people are working on may become kind of irrelevant. It's always a shame to see people's hard work become obsolete

You've made a very cool suspension for your carriage, but Ford is about to mass produce the automobile

Re: FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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Bought a PineTime for $27 plus shipping. Wear it while running to measure my BPM. I send the BPM to the Gadgetbridge Android app via Bluetooth. Upgraded Infinitime via Bluetooth. Have not messed around with the OS code yet. Have been happy so far.

Does it do sleep tracking? How long does the battery last? I still daily drive a Pebble 2HR with over a week of battery life but am looking for a replacement compatible with Gadgetbridge, and there really aren't any that can track sleep in a way Gadgetbridge can understand...

Re: FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I can't help but feel like very low cost full-blown Linux devices are right around the corner. why is that a but? i don't think this is a case of, if we had waited longer we could have made them cheaper, but i rather believe that pine64, fairphone, and other projects going all the way back to openmoko were laying the groundwork that make the next generation of cheaper and better devices even possible. so yes, ver…

I'm not any kind of authority on this, but for the most part the hacker/OSS community is taking cheap chips and repurposing the hardware for other stuff. So progress in the space happens on its own. For instance the chip in the Lychee RV Nano is made for IP cameras. I guess my point is that once you can run Debian on your wrist (which will happen for external reasons), all these complex setups with customs RTOS stack…

i get your point, but i actually think that RTOS solutions will remain interesting as i believe they should be able to run on less power thus enabling uses that devices which need more power can't. (like a wrist watch that doesn't need to be recharged as often)

Re: FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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From looking at the slides it looks like a really impressive project. But I can't help but feel like very low cost full-blown Linux devices are right around the corner. Ex: https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/02/08/licheerv-nano-low-co... If you can run full blown Debian on your wrist soon, why bother with this severely restricted device that are a pain in the ass to develop for?

Battery life would be a major reason.

Re: FOSDEM 2024: PineTime Talk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not any kind of authority on this, but for the most part the hacker/OSS community is taking cheap chips and repurposing the hardware for other stuff. So progress in the space happens on its own. For instance the chip in the Lychee RV Nano is made for IP cameras. I guess my point is that once you can run Debian on your wrist (which will happen for external reasons), all these complex setups with customs RTOS stack…

i get your point, but i actually think that RTOS solutions will remain interesting as i believe they should be able to run on less power thus enabling uses that devices which need more power can't. (like a wrist watch that doesn't need to be recharged as often)

Yeah, totally could be :)

Total layman guess, but I think with an e-ink display you could get away with the chip sleeping most of the time

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