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Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by dmix »

nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

Nothing in that post indicates they are taking it offline, the HN headline is just editorializing. It says Vice is no longer making new content for their Web properties and focusing on other platforms instead like YouTube.

There's no way they'd give up the ads dollars they get from he existing stuff... That makes no sense

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#82

Post by transcriptase »

homefree wrote: post #19
RajT88 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HuffPo is so clickbaity and ad filled I cannot imagine it going anywhere.

Salon is also awful - it’ll be nice when they’re done

They’ll be fine as long as Trump wins the next election.

The ad revenue from having even one of your daily “orange man bad” articles hit the top of a dozen massive subreddits a few times a week can sustain any business.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#84

Post by dmix »

geor9e wrote: post #59

Full text: Dear Vice Team, As we navigate the ever-evolving business landscape, we need to adapt and best align our strategies to be more competitive in the long term. After careful consideration and discussion with the board, we have decided to make some fundamental changes to our strategic vision at Vice. We create and produce outstanding original content true to the Vice brand. However, it is no longer cost-effect…

The key bit:

> As part of this shift, we will no longer publish content on vice.com

@dang can we change the headline to "Vice will no longer publish content on vice.com" instead of implying the website is shutting down?

They will obviously keep it around for existing SEO ads and as a brand to sell ads for their other content on other platforms.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#85

Post by ewalk153 »

naet wrote: post #49
Scoundreller wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway I 100% don't get it when websites with lots of content and good SEO just delete everything. Fatwallet (fuck you Rakuten). Yahoo Answers (hey, I didn't say good content). Even on my own Drupal blogs that I didn't want to maintain/update anymore, I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on…

I did some work for a design agency that got bought by Twitter.... we basically converted all their different sites to full static and put them on ice. It would have been expensive to keep hosting how they had been, but with everything flattened to static it's super cheap to keep up (although no publishing new stuff without some by hand work or restoring the old servers). All the good articles and design samples stay…

Could the internet archive offer this as a paid service?

For a reasonable fee, we'll archive your site, and give you back a copy of the assets you can turnkey host on the original domain for cheap with a static hosting solution (s3, cloudflare, etc).

Everybody wins

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#86

Post by ethbr1 »

dmix wrote: post #81
nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

Nothing in that post indicates they are taking it offline, the HN headline is just editorializing. It says Vice is no longer making new content for their Web properties and focusing on other platforms instead like YouTube. There's no way they'd give up the ads dollars they get from he existing stuff... That makes no sense

> no longer making new content for their Web properties and focusing on other platforms instead like YouTube

Way to jump out of the boiling pot and immediately place your head in the lion's jaws...

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by manderley »

dmix wrote: post #81
nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

Nothing in that post indicates they are taking it offline, the HN headline is just editorializing. It says Vice is no longer making new content for their Web properties and focusing on other platforms instead like YouTube. There's no way they'd give up the ads dollars they get from he existing stuff... That makes no sense

Those ad dollars will diminish quickly, and pretty soon it will be more expensive to keep the website up than to just take it down.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#88

Post by dewey »

RheingoldRiver wrote: post #79
shawnz wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the "this decision is stupid" camp, but just playing devil's advocate here, they might not want to risk damaging their brand by letting some third party agency mishandle their website

Don't include the brand in the deal, just the content?

Which then defeats the whole purpose of keeping the bookmarks / URLs / SEO surface alive as the domain is kinda part of the brand if it’s vice.com.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#89

Post by dmix »

manderley wrote: post #87
dmix wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing in that post indicates they are taking it offline, the HN headline is just editorializing. It says Vice is no longer making new content for their Web properties and focusing on other platforms instead like YouTube. There's no way they'd give up the ads dollars they get from he existing stuff... That makes no sense

Those ad dollars will diminish quickly, and pretty soon it will be more expensive to keep the website up than to just take it down.

It's not that expensive to host old blog posts and they already host videos on YouTube... What's expensive in those operations is supporting new content and growth. Now they can wind it down and establish a fixed legacy system and eventually run it on autopilot with a small team in support roles.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by mingus88 »

paxys wrote: post #43
Scoundreller wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it says "we will no longer publish content on vice.com" which is ambiguous. If I stop posting new content, have I stopped publishing? Or is it if I stop serving, then I've stopped publishing?

It is not ambiguous. They are no longer publishing new content. They have not said they will unpublish existing content.

“New” is not in the original post.

Saying “we will no longer publish content” could very well mean they are taking down the site; thus it is no longer published

I think it’s very likely that this is what’s going to happen because even a static archive site is going to cost money and dilute their new social brand

Perhaps they’ll repost their old stuff on their new channels but it will nevertheless suck for old timers like me that refuse to use social media

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