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Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

malermeister wrote: post #18
footpath wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's the Google Pay service that processes payments. There's the old Google Pay app that got rebranded as Google Wallet. And then there's a newer Google Pay app available only in the US, Singapore, and India. This is the one getting shutdown. See also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pay And a very helpful chart: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Googlepayments.svg

Jesus Christ that chart. What is going on over at Google???

A fat monopoly and a bunch of unaligned bullshit besides that.

Like its all middle management machiavellianism at this s point.

Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by theturtletalks »

darth_avocado wrote: post #23

Strange that Apple can make Apple pay work so well but Google keeps botching it. If nothing else, just copy the product and build what Apple has built, but for Android.

If they could do that, they’d have an iMessage competitor by now. Last Android I used was the Pixel 3 and still couldn’t text from my laptop, something Apple has had for more than a decade.

Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by w3ll_w3ll_w3ll »

mhitza wrote: post #28

> Common questions about these changes Does not include a reason for this change or why is it a US only change.

Google Pay was rebranded as Google Wallet in the rest of the world in 2022. Only US and Singapore kept the Google Pay brand. (No idea why)

https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pay-becomes-google-wall...

Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by theturtletalks »

kivlad wrote: post #19
impulser_ wrote: post #12

So I did some research apparently they have gone full circle now. It started as Google Wallet renamed to Android Pay then renamed to Google Pay then split into Google Pay and Google Wallet and now back to just Google Wallet. Google is a fucking mess lol. I know Sundar has been great for shareholder, but man maybe it's time for a change. A fake post about them getting rid of Gmail next year is going viral on Twitter a…

It gets worse though, the app actually split into "Google Pay" and the new "GPay", where the latter was originally an India-only app they reworked for the rest of the world. In old Google Pay you'd see messages that it'll stop working soon and that you should migrate to the new GPay, but if you ignored them you could still use it. Then, they eventually overhauled old Google Pay back to "Google Wallet", and now they'r…

Don’t worry, they’ll kill the product years later due to “low customer demand.”

Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by theturtletalks »

ignoramous wrote: post #13
impulser_ wrote: post #12

So I did some research apparently they have gone full circle now. It started as Google Wallet renamed to Android Pay then renamed to Google Pay then split into Google Pay and Google Wallet and now back to just Google Wallet. Google is a fucking mess lol. I know Sundar has been great for shareholder, but man maybe it's time for a change. A fake post about them getting rid of Gmail next year is going viral on Twitter a…

> I know Sundar has been great... Think the execs responsible for this were excused en masse or quit: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/google-pay-team-repo... Some founded a fintech company that now also does AI, because why not.

This sort of thing is part of Google’s culture now. I don’t understand how ousting a team could forgive all the similar issues they had before.

Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by Macha »

mhitza wrote: post #28

> Common questions about these changes Does not include a reason for this change or why is it a US only change.

So in the beginning there was Android Pay, which later became Google Pay in the US and Europe.

For India, Google launched an app called Tez (and later renamed Google Pay) there which was more adapted for the India market, doing things like phone number identities and UPI integration.

This worked so well in India, that they promoted the head of the India app to be in charge of payments everywhere, and so his plan was to replace the global Google Pay with Indian Google Pay. They started with this in the US, and it flopped hard, both in terms of uptake and reviews. It turns out in many non-India markets (including the US) people don't really want to accept the tradeoffs of phone number identities for anything that doesn't directly compete with their SMS app.

So the leader responsible resigned, and the new leadership instead updated the old global Google Pay as Google Wallet. India stuck with Google Pay (formerly known as Tez) since that worked there, and the rest of the world never moved from Google Pay (fka Android Pay) to Google Pay (fka Tez), so only had a single Google Pay at one time. However, Google had now split their userbase across two apps so was scared to shut either there, so the US stayed in limbo for two years.

This is now resolving the US based limbo by shutting down Google Pay (fka Tez) in the US, so that the US joins Europe in only using Google Wallet (fka Google Pay fka Android Pay).

In short:

Before:

- India: Google Pay (fka Tez)

- Europe: Google Pay (fka Android Pay)

- US: Google Pay (fka Android Pay) and GPay (fka Tez)

After:

India: Google Pay (fka Tez)

US & Europe: Google Wallet (fka Google Pay fka Android Pay)

Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by tantalor »

theturtletalks wrote: post #32
darth_avocado wrote: post #23

Strange that Apple can make Apple pay work so well but Google keeps botching it. If nothing else, just copy the product and build what Apple has built, but for Android.

If they could do that, they’d have an iMessage competitor by now. Last Android I used was the Pixel 3 and still couldn’t text from my laptop, something Apple has had for more than a decade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Messages

Web support was released in 2018

Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by refulgentis »

dcchambers wrote: post #15

Google's history with their payment apps/platform is almost as convoluted as their history with message apps/platforms. I swear they have gone back and forth on Android Pay/Google Wallet/Google Pay a half dozen times.

I worked on Pixel for several years and used to excuse this stuff.

Now, among other things, every time I need to open the app, I inevitably search for Google Pay instead of Wallet.

Maybe I'll remember now that this happened.

Android Pay -> Google Pay seemed fair, but IIRC, Google Pay -> Google Wallet was just a combo of shipping-the-org-chart and Apple me-too'ing.

At the time, they were also leaking that there was going to be a Google credit card / true bank account launched, because Apple had just done that. [^1]

There was no greater force internally than Apple. I swear the only thing 90% of leads _actually_ wanted to get done was something close enough to last year's Apple announcements that they could say it with a straight face.

[^1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-is-scrapping-its-plan-to...

Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by hcnews »

theturtletalks wrote: post #32
darth_avocado wrote: post #23

Strange that Apple can make Apple pay work so well but Google keeps botching it. If nothing else, just copy the product and build what Apple has built, but for Android.

If they could do that, they’d have an iMessage competitor by now. Last Android I used was the Pixel 3 and still couldn’t text from my laptop, something Apple has had for more than a decade.

I have been texting from my laptop from 2010 via Google Voice.

Re: Google Pay app will no longer be available

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Post by twodave »

Macha wrote: post #36
mhitza wrote: post #28

> Common questions about these changes Does not include a reason for this change or why is it a US only change.

So in the beginning there was Android Pay, which later became Google Pay in the US and Europe. For India, Google launched an app called Tez (and later renamed Google Pay) there which was more adapted for the India market, doing things like phone number identities and UPI integration. This worked so well in India, that they promoted the head of the India app to be in charge of payments everywhere, and so his plan was…

This should be a top level comment. Very informative, thanks!
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