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I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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I am really sorry to whinge but is there any way at all to avoid posting links to tweets? Visiting twitter is such a horrible soul destroying experience.

I can’t work out how to full screen the video if it’s even possible.

The resolution on the video is too poor for me to be able to read the code.

There are ads and troll comments everywhere.

It seems to want me to create an account.

It’s just horrific.

Is there really no better way to showcase some cool observation or story about Gemini doing something useful?

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This stage is called denial. There's also anger, bargaining, depression, and finally, in the end, acceptence. I'm saying in a funny way, but I suspect it's true. Who can say how AI will develop, but beware of happily-ever-after stories. It could be a nightmare for all of civilization, for just engineers, or just not develop much futher.

Nah, it will bifurcate the industry between people who have a mental model of how things work and people who only know how to press the code dispenser button. Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster.

>Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster

Or it will reduce the demand for inexperienced juniors and offshore teams since you can replace their slop with AI slop.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This stage is called denial. There's also anger, bargaining, depression, and finally, in the end, acceptence. I'm saying in a funny way, but I suspect it's true. Who can say how AI will develop, but beware of happily-ever-after stories. It could be a nightmare for all of civilization, for just engineers, or just not develop much futher.

Nah, it will bifurcate the industry between people who have a mental model of how things work and people who only know how to press the code dispenser button. Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster.

And those who know what they're doing will have reliable work fixing the slop they made, but for less pay. (I say this because, judging by pay, building a new website, no matter how poorly, is more valuable then doing something like maintaining the banking systems.)

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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I am really sorry to whinge but is there any way at all to avoid posting links to tweets? Visiting twitter is such a horrible soul destroying experience. I can’t work out how to full screen the video if it’s even possible. The resolution on the video is too poor for me to be able to read the code. There are ads and troll comments everywhere. It seems to want me to create an account. It’s just horrific. Is there reall…

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Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, it will bifurcate the industry between people who have a mental model of how things work and people who only know how to press the code dispenser button. Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster.

>Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster Or it will reduce the demand for inexperienced juniors and offshore teams since you can replace their slop with AI slop.

Well, it's a good thing seniors are hired from the void fully trained. /s

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This stage is called denial. There's also anger, bargaining, depression, and finally, in the end, acceptence. I'm saying in a funny way, but I suspect it's true. Who can say how AI will develop, but beware of happily-ever-after stories. It could be a nightmare for all of civilization, for just engineers, or just not develop much futher.

The problem with this is that it could be a universal argument against any skepticism. So unless skeptics are always wrong, it doesn‘t really work

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Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

I feel literally the opposite: the reason why I'm disappointed by the current state of AI is because I really want it to work so I can focus on the actually useful part of my job instead of doing boring stuff.

What's the useful part of my job? It's bringing values to my customers: they want to do something, and they need help. But today, unfortunately I must always tell them to reduce their ambition because they wouldn't be able to afford it or to be stuck waiting for the project to deliver even if they could fund it.

I've seen a enormous shift in developers ability to actually ship valuable products to customers when opensource became mainstream, thanks to github and things like npm: no more custom half-backed libraries for doing all the features necessary for the product to work, we could just re-use an existing library. More than half of our job disappeared these days, yet nobody regrets the days when you had to write your own code for absolutely every features, and the number of programmers exploded since then[1].

I wish AI assistant could be as impactful as github and npm, and I'm pretty sure they will eventually, and that day will be a great day for developers, not a bad one.

We're not going to lose our job, because from the perspective of the dude who hold the money, our job is to be the weirdo that talks to machines to deliver what the his ego want his company to be. Hence, the more you are able to deliver, the happier the money holder, and the more money you make. Our job will be threatened when the guys with money will be willing to actually make the effort of talking with the machine, but I don't see this day coming anytime soon. The ambition of man is unlimited, but his will to make efforts is in scarce supply.

The only realistic risk with AI, is big corporations grabbing all the benefits of the added productivity, this is a serious risk, and a very good reason not to be using OpenAI so we don't trigger a self-reinforcing feedback loop that give them a monopoly position where we all end up losing because we depend on them.

[1]: this has caused lots of sustainability issues for the library authors, but not for the developers using the libraries.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

#19

Has anybody tried feeding a LLM a bunch of business rules and having it generate a program that meets them?

I saw one of the Microsoft product owners give a talk on Power Apps at Atlanta Developer's Conference:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/power-platform/products/powe...

You can write just a few sentences, or even upload a drawing of what you want your app to look like, and it'll create it for you.

The catch is it's only for corporate apps. These can't be publicly facing. Everyone needs to sign in with M365 and have an individual license.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster Or it will reduce the demand for inexperienced juniors and offshore teams since you can replace their slop with AI slop.

Well, it's a good thing seniors are hired from the void fully trained. /s

You laugh, but where I live the market for juniors (other than summer internships exclusively for currently enrolled university students) is basically zero right now.

Every company is looking exclusively for seniors or at least mid level. They don't care that someone needs to train juniors in order to become seniors as long as it's someone else who has to do it. Companies can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

So everyone keeps telling me how hot the SW dev market is right now due to all the openings and the high demand, meanwhile I'm only getting rejections because I don't have 3+ YoE in AWS, Kubernetes, Django/Flask, System Design, etc.

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