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I hope they're filtering it heavily and specifically. While Reddit does still have some valuable discussion in the more niche subs, I've noticed the main subs moving further left, hatefully and almost violently so. I can't wait to search for who the Republican nominee is, and Google tell me to kill myself.
I’ve not seen this. What do you mean?
Hm, now I have to wonder if it'd be possible to create a tool that poisons your Reddit posts so they look fine to a human but completely trash LLM output. I'm not saying we should do it, but it's a fascinating thought.
An AI company with an agenda getting their data from a social platform with an agenda. What could go wrong?
$60M/year for GOOG to access all their data when they purport to be targeting a $5B valuation at IPO is really cheap. Arguably Reddit's value is it's data, and GOOG is renting it for 1.2%/year?
A. Nothing said it was exclusive. B. Reddit's value is in the community more than the data. A company with Reddit's data but not Reddit's users is worth relatively little.
oh cool so the contributors of the data are all getting paid?
> oh cool so the contributors of the data are all getting paid? If people on reddit wanted to get paid for their opinions, they wouldn't be posting them for free on a publicly accessible forum that does not even require an account to view... This same sentiment came up when StackExchange started to use/sell StackOverflow posts for AI training too - yet everyone arguing that position failed to recognize StackExchange…
People post on the internet 'for free' with the expectation that they're discussing ideas which have their own value, not providing training data. Yeah yeah ToS blah blah blah, but the goodwill that sites have built – even ones like HN – is on the premise that we're participating in the marketplace of ideas, not enriching shareholders.
This will ultimately be bad for the open internet.
$60M/year for GOOG to access all their data when they purport to be targeting a $5B valuation at IPO is really cheap. Arguably Reddit's value is it's data, and GOOG is renting it for 1.2%/year?
1. It is pointless to compare total company value with an annual payment. 2. It isn't an exclusive license. There are dozens of companies training language models, and if they are all forced to pay the same amount then that's some serious cash.
Mozilla being an exception, I suppose?
Someone should create a bot that responds to highly upvoted comments and remind the redditor that Reddit is making money off the comment and the information is being used by AI and they aren't seeing a dime of it.
I know reddit has hired a lot. This sort of feel like a fundraising round to keep operations afloat. This must be the real reason for destroying public API access.
Source for Reddit hiring more than average tech company? I feel like every tech company scaled up in the bull market and then trimmed back down when hype subsided. For example, Google grew by 72,000 between 2019 and 2022 and has since shed about 20,000. Reddit is IPOing next month. IMHO they cut public API access as a way to simplify and pump bookkeeping numbers to get a better listing price.
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A. Nothing said it was exclusive. B. Reddit's value is in the community more than the data. A company with Reddit's data but not Reddit's users is worth relatively little.
How do you extract the value from the community?