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Fair point that a lot of Reddit is already astroturfed, but this is definitely the final nail in the coffin. Now SEO is coming for the forums, too. Wonderful.
In fairness, Reddit's built-in search works well enough that I could still find stuff on Reddit if Google croaked tomorrow.
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It was going to get scraped and used by AI anyway? Given that I'm not sure I care that much if reddit makes a bit of cash off it. Honestly, this is the future, if it's publically available on the internet it's going to be scraped and used by AI. The inevitable consequence of which is probably more conversation moves into private places like Discord. But that's the future we're in, it's not gonna get rolled back.
I don't see why Discord would not follow suit if it has not already Everyone is privacy focused until they're not
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Or course! Same way we get paid by for the ideas we discuss here
Exactly. If you don’t get value from HN, don’t use HN. If you don’t get value from Reddit, don’t use Reddit.
It's a trade: y-combinator, by cultivating a group of talented technical contributors, gets to advertise hiring posts for free and, in some ways, autistically contributes to the community.
In exchange, we all get a place for thoughtful discussion with reasonably fair moderation.
It's a fair trade for those involved and closer to a non-profit model than Reddit which is clearly trying to extract as much value as possible from the content creators on their platform in exchange for giving them community/platform.
oh cool so the contributors of the data are all getting paid?
> oh cool so the contributors of the data are all getting paid? If people on reddit wanted to get paid for their opinions, they wouldn't be posting them for free on a publicly accessible forum that does not even require an account to view... This same sentiment came up when StackExchange started to use/sell StackOverflow posts for AI training too - yet everyone arguing that position failed to recognize StackExchange…
https://www.brentozar.com/archive/2015/10/how-to-download-th...
I know reddit has hired a lot. This sort of feel like a fundraising round to keep operations afloat. This must be the real reason for destroying public API access.
Reddit is IPOing next month. IMHO they cut public API access as a way to simplify and pump bookkeeping numbers to get a better listing price.
Someone should create a bot that responds to highly upvoted comments and remind the redditor that Reddit is making money off the comment and the information is being used by AI and they aren't seeing a dime of it.
That's arguably more true in advertising driven reddit than AI reddit - no one comment is going to be worth the most in a data scraper but eyeballs win in advertising. I think the entire thing is scummy too, but its interesting to me how people think that advertisers were somehow less bad than this.
The article was about mining comments for AI, not about advertisement. Yet you brought in the topic of advertisement, and then created a fake argument about how people think advertisers are better than AI scraping. It's really weird that you did that.
oh cool so the contributors of the data are all getting paid?
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Didn't Google have a "forums" filter like 20 years ago? I can't seem to find results pages on archive.org.
You may be thinking of the Gmail default sorted inboxes
