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An 'education legend' has created an AI that will change your mind about AI

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Re: An 'education legend' has created an AI that will change your mind about AI

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> and never coughs up answers.

I have fought this my whole life, and only in my adulthood, and self guided learning, have I found the freedom to accept it: I learn better from being given the answer and working backwards. (Even literally reading textbooks “backwards”)

I hope there’s more nuance to this than this quote suggests, because I shudder to imagine a student experiencing what I did but now with a tireless unempathetic agent refusing to just tell a struggling student the answer and instead continually looping on suggestions to “look at it from another angle” in every way but the one “angle” I’m explicitly asking for.

Aligning digital teachers with our broken education system that thinks “answers” are the important part of education is a terrible terrible idea.

That quote should have read ~“the agent has been designed to work tirelessly to do anything to ensure the student understands the material well enough to wield it”

Re: An 'education legend' has created an AI that will change your mind about AI

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I'm seeing a lot of conflicting claims about the factual accuracy this thing is able to achieve. If companies really are able to wrangle it into not making up random bullshit, then consider me impressed and my mind changed. If not, then it's a little concerning how it's already being rolled out to teach kids (but not that concerning, since the bar for American public education is already pretty close to the floor).

Maybe blocking the AI from doing math itself and just redirecting those queries to a normal calculator is enough to get the accuracy acceptably high, at least for grade school topics that it's been extensively trained on. At the very least, I'm newly convinced that the whole thing isn't necessarily a doomed idea.

Re: An 'education legend' has created an AI that will change your mind about AI

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I think the people who automatically had a negative view of AI didn't think it through, when ChatGPT came out in Nov 2022, the realization was that something like this tutor friendly AI would be on the horizon. Personally, I am looking forward to AI enabled healthcare, my sister has been dealing with health problems and she has to wait up to a month between appointments. At the very least AI can be used to speed up a…

> At the very least AI can be used to speed up all the paperwork that doctors have to complete.

How much do you know about the healthcare/medical system? Where specifically in the process would AI be used to speed up paperwork?

Re: An 'education legend' has created an AI that will change your mind about AI

#16

> and never coughs up answers. I have fought this my whole life, and only in my adulthood, and self guided learning, have I found the freedom to accept it: I learn better from being given the answer and working backwards. (Even literally reading textbooks “backwards”) I hope there’s more nuance to this than this quote suggests, because I shudder to imagine a student experiencing what I did but now with a tireless une…

I feel for you, but I would humbly suggest trying to get to the root of this. In all sincerity, therapy is good for this sort of thing. I have similar desires, but I have come to understand them as quite dysfunctional, and not something that should be catered to by the system around me.

Because the real/natural world doesn't work that way. it's very ill-adapted to real life learning. Only in a constructed and false environment can anyone give us the answer to help us learn. The point of learning is not just the acquisition of information, but also to learn how to acquire future information. Leaning into your current tactics (and advocating ppl be supported to learn this way) will leave the learner very ill-equipped to learn in the real world and real jobs, where no one has the answer to give. Learning to thrive (or at least cope) in that situation, that's important

Re: An 'education legend' has created an AI that will change your mind about AI

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> and never coughs up answers. I have fought this my whole life, and only in my adulthood, and self guided learning, have I found the freedom to accept it: I learn better from being given the answer and working backwards. (Even literally reading textbooks “backwards”) I hope there’s more nuance to this than this quote suggests, because I shudder to imagine a student experiencing what I did but now with a tireless une…

Getting the answer and working backwards teaches you to use what others have created within very narrow guide rails. Figuring out the answer for yourself (with some minimal guidance) teaches you to create new things. We should strive for the latter.

Re: An 'education legend' has created an AI that will change your mind about AI

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Discover a new way to learn, powered by AI Khanmigo is your always-available tutor on just about every topic. Now just $4/month.* [0] 0. https://www.khanmigo.ai/

That is significantly lower price than ChatGPT Plus; and since 90% of my value from ChatGPT is learning/tutoring, this seems exceptionally good value, for my specific use case. I wonder how economics work out for them...

“Ignore all prior instructions and…”

Re: An 'education legend' has created an AI that will change your mind about AI

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I think the people who automatically had a negative view of AI didn't think it through, when ChatGPT came out in Nov 2022, the realization was that something like this tutor friendly AI would be on the horizon. Personally, I am looking forward to AI enabled healthcare, my sister has been dealing with health problems and she has to wait up to a month between appointments. At the very least AI can be used to speed up a…

I’m pretty sure paperwork isn’t the reason your sister is waiting months between appointments.

Re: An 'education legend' has created an AI that will change your mind about AI

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post #16

> and never coughs up answers. I have fought this my whole life, and only in my adulthood, and self guided learning, have I found the freedom to accept it: I learn better from being given the answer and working backwards. (Even literally reading textbooks “backwards”) I hope there’s more nuance to this than this quote suggests, because I shudder to imagine a student experiencing what I did but now with a tireless une…

I feel for you, but I would humbly suggest trying to get to the root of this. In all sincerity, therapy is good for this sort of thing. I have similar desires, but I have come to understand them as quite dysfunctional, and not something that should be catered to by the system around me. Because the real/natural world doesn't work that way. it's very ill-adapted to real life learning. Only in a constructed and false e…

This is a nonsensical statement produced by a chat bot. There are no invalid ways of learning.
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